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maddog10
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I didn't know I needed to convert to sRGB. I shoot in AdobeRGB in the camera and use Photoshop to process the RAW images. Never occured to me to change to sRGB. Thanks.
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A G Photography
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Location: Bologna - Italy
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| maddog10 wrote: | | I didn't know I needed to convert to sRGB. I shoot in AdobeRGB in the camera and use Photoshop to process the RAW images. Never occured to me to change to sRGB. Thanks. |
It's needed just if you want your image to display well on a PC monitor. If you need to print AdobeRGB is far better because it's a larger color space and translates decently into CMYK.
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lulalake
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Hi Michael,
I haven't seen the other shots so I don't know what you've tried but I want to suggest that you stop trying to document the car and go for a more exciting shot.
The "pose" itself may be the issue. 
Cheers
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maddog10
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I agree about the pose, I have moved that thing all around my yard trying to find a good spot, with no luck.
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A G Photography
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| maddog10 wrote: | | I agree about the pose, I have moved that thing all around my yard trying to find a good spot, with no luck. |
I find it's not that bad, actually it's also good considering the direct sunlight.
Pro shots of cars are made with huge (and I mean HUGE  ) softboxes on top of them. One cheap trick you could use is a gazebo or sorta of... I mean some white textile hanging on top of the car so to diffuse light around.
Still one of the best car shot I saw was made by a couple of small flashes on its seats:
(and story http://www.flickr.com/photos/7211625@N06/462135050/
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Schnauzer
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Mike, finding 128 neutral in curves this is what I got.
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Himself
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My try.
A lil bit lowered and bla, bla, Photoshoped
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eocene
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: I Need Help |
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Try Adobe Elements ver 6. This software can work wonders on any photos digital or scanned 35mm prints
John
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[quote="maddog10"]I have shot over 100 photos of this car and have not been able to get a single one that I really like. I need advice! The orange color of this car looks best when sunlight is hitting it, but it makes it difficult for me to shoot it. This photo has been processed pretty heavy in an attempt to bring the orange color out. To be honest, I have a minimal understanding of Photoshop CS3 and I make a mess of the photo when I work on it. ANY advice would be greatly appreciated. This is probably the best I have been able to manage.
[img]http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g36/maddog10/Cars/vette-2.jpg[/img][/quote] |
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maddog10
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks John, I will look into that program.
Sorin, I just noticed this photo. I was looking at it (without reading the text) and was trying to figure out why it looked so much better in the photo, than in real life. Actually, it is very easy to lower these cars. All you have to do is replace 4 bolts. We lowered one like this in my friends shop. Unfortunately, it was so low you almost couldn't drive it on the street without hitting something on the bottom. It was also a very 'hard' ride, with no suspension travel.
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seems madcat nice avatar!
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zewrak
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:34 am Post subject: |
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When in doubt, make it black and white. 
Or make it move.
Or use the levels tool pickers to try to define greypoint.
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peterqd
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| Schnauzer wrote: | Mike, finding 128 neutral in curves this is what I got.
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I don't know how this compares with the real life car, but the road and trees in this version look so much more natural to me. By far the best so far. Well done Ron.
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maddog10
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Yes, Ron's (Schnauzer) was the most 'lifelike' version.
Sorin's was the coolest though.
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DSLR: Nikon - D3, D80, D40 Canon- 5D
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Nikon Mount Lens: Nikkor - 2.8/20 2.8/24 2/28 2.8/28 3.5/28 2/35 2.8/35 1.4/50 1.8/50 2/50 1.8/85 2/85 2.5/105 2.8/135 3.5/135 2.8/180 4/200 4.5/300 Micro 2.8/55 Micro 4/200 Zoom 3.5/36-72 3.5/43-86 4/70-210 Sigma - Zoom 2.8-4/35-70 Soligor - 3.5-4.5/28-80 4.5/80-200 5.6/95-310 Tamron - SP 2.8-3.8/35-80 SP 3.5/70-210 3.8-4/80-210 Vivitar - 3.8/19 2.8/28 (Series 1) 3.5-4.5/19-35 (Kiron) 3.5/70-210 Zenitar - 2.8/16
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Himself
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| maddog10 wrote: | Yes, Ron's (Schnauzer) was the most 'lifelike' version.
Sorin's was the coolest though. |
Thanks buddy!
Send me an email if you want to learn the PS technique.
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