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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: I could not resist |
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Orio wrote:
And got my second Sonnar 4/135
Click here to see on Ebay
I couldn't resist it in mint condition for 39 Euros...
Official excuse? It takes photos like this:
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 4/135 - slightly stopped down
100% crop slightly stopped down, not sharpened:
100% crop slightly stopped down, not sharpened:
_________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57850 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Beautiful lens, nice samples ! I never can ressist if I can see nice Carl Zeiss Jena or Meyer lenses. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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A G Photography
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bologna - Italy
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
Guess who did you overbid Orio? (It would have been my second too ) _________________ Alessandro
My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A G Photography wrote: |
Guess who did you overbid Orio? (It would have been my second too ) |
oops... sorry!
But knowing it was a double for you also, it makes me feel better _________________ Orio, Administrator
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A G Photography
Joined: 11 May 2008 Posts: 1480 Location: Bologna - Italy
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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A G Photography wrote:
Orio wrote: |
A G Photography wrote: |
Guess who did you overbid Orio? (It would have been my second too ) |
oops... sorry!
But knowing it was a double for you also, it makes me feel better |
Don't you worry, they are pretty commons and I just like to have one in alu finish (I have the black MC one).
And yes it takes great 3d shots like this:
My dream is being able to use the Sonnar 50 on a digital camera, don't know how though. _________________ Alessandro
My Photography Website
My Blog about Photography and Italian Cuisine
My Photostream on Flickr
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DSLR: Nikon d80, Olympus e410
SLR: Chinon CX, Fujica ST605n, Nikon f601, Pentacon FM, Pentax Spotmatic SPII, Praktica FX, Praktica FX2, Voigtlander VST1, Yashica FX-3, Zeiss Contaflex
RF: Altissa Altix, Zorki Ie, Kiev 4b
Medium Format: Pentacon Six TL, Zeiss Ikonta 520/2, Mockba 4, Voigtlander Bessa I, Agfa Isolette II, Agfa Isola
Large Format: Cambo SC 4x5, Rodenstock Sinaron 150/5.6, Rodenstock Rodagon 150/5.6, Schneider Kreuznach Symmar 180/5.6
Lenses
Nikkors: 28/3.5 AIS, 35/2, 50/1.8, 50/2 H, Micro 55/3.5, Micro 60/2.8, 85/1.8, 135/3.5 AI, 200/4 NAI, 18-55/3.5-5.6, 28-80/3.5-5.6, 55-200/4-5.6
CY: Distagon 28/2.8, Planar 50/1.4, Yashika 50/1.7, Sonnar 135/2.8
CZJ m42-Exakta: Flektogon 20/4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Tessar 40/4.5, Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, Pancolar 50/2, Biotar 58/2, Biotar 75/1.5, Tessar 80/2.8, Sonnar 135/3.5, Sonnar 135/4, Triotar 135/4
CZJ P6: Flektogon 50/4, Flektogon 65/2.8, Biometar 80/2.8, Biometar 120/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Meyer-Pentacon: Orestegon 29/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Lydith 30/3.5, Primagon 35/4.5, Helioplan 40/4.5, Domiplan 50/2.8, Primotar 50/3.5, Oreston 50/1.8, Primoplan 58/1.9, Orestor 100/2.8, Trioplan 100/2.8, Helioplan 135/4.5, Orestor 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, Primotar 135/3.5, Primotar 180/3.5, Telemegor 180/5.5, Orestegor 200/4, Pentacon 200/4, Orestegor 300/4, Telemegor 300/4.5, Telemegor 400/5.5
Schneider-Kreuznach: Curtagon 28/4, Curtagon 35/2.8, Xenon 50/1.9, Xenar 50/2.8, Tele Xenar 135/3.5, Tele Xenar 200/4
Russians: Arsat Zodiak 30/3.5, Mir-I 37/2.8, Volna-9 50/2.8, Industar-50 50/3.5, Industar-61 50/2.8, Helios 44 58/2, Helios 44-2 58/2, Helios 44-M-4 58/2, Volna-3 80/2.8, Helios 40 85/1.5, Jupiter 9 85/2, Jupiter 11 135/4
Others: Chinon-Tomioka 55/1.4, Helios 28/2.8, Isco Iscotar 50/2.8, Konica Hexanon 40/1.8, Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9, Schacht Travegon 35/3.5, Schacht Travenon 135/4.5, Sekor 55/1.8, Sigma MF 28/2.8, S-Takumar, 28/3.5, S-Takumar 50/1.4, S-Takumar 55/1.8, S-Takumar 55/2, Steinheil Quinar 135/2.8, Steinheil Culminar 135/4.5, Vivitar 135/2.8, Voigtlander Ultron 50/1.8, Yashica Yashinon DX 50/1.4, Zuiko MC Auto-W 28/2.8
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio
It looks beautiful and what a condition. Price is crazy for such a lens.
AG
watch out for bidding from pachaol on the next one - I must go for it.
patrickh _________________ DSLR: Nikon D300 Nikon D200 Nex 5N
MF Zooms: Kiron 28-85/3.5, 28-105/3.2, 75-150/3.5, Nikkor 50-135/3.5 AIS // MF Primes: Nikkor 20/4 AI, 24/2 AI, 28/2 AI, 28/2.8 AIS, 28/3.5 AI, 35/1.4 AIS, 35/2 AIS, 35/2.8 PC, 45/2.8 P, 50/1.4 AIS, 50/1.8 AIS, 50/2 AI, 55/2.8 AIS micro, 55/3.5 AI micro, 85/2 AI, 100/2,8 E, 105/1,8 AIS, 105/2,5 AIS, 135/2 AIS, 135/2.8 AIS, 200/4 AI, 200/4 AIS micro, 300/4.5 AI, 300/4.5 AI ED, Arsat 50/1.4, Kiron 28/2, Vivitar 28/2.5, Panagor 135/2.8, Tamron 28/2.5, Tamron 90/2.5 macro, Vivitar 90/2.5 macro (Tokina) Voigtlander 90/3.5 Vivitar 105/2.5 macro (Kiron) Kaleinar 100/2.8 AI Tamron 135/2.5, Vivitar 135/2.8CF, 200/3.5, Tokina 400/5,6
M42: Vivitar 28/2.5, Tamron 28/2.5, Formula5 28/2.8, Mamiya 28/2.8, Pentacon 29/2.8, Flektogon 35/2.4, Flektogon 35/2.8, Takumar 35/3.5, Curtagon 35/4, Takumar 50/1.4, Volna-6 50/2.8 macro, Mamiya 50/1.4, CZJ Pancolar 50/1,8, Oreston 50/1.8, Takumar 50/2, Industar 50/3.5, Sears 55/1.4, Helios 58/2, Jupiter 85/2, Helios 85/1.5, Takumar 105/2.8, Steinheil macro 105/4.5, Tamron 135/2.5, Jupiter 135/4, CZ 135/4, Steinheil Culminar 135/4,5, Jupiter 135/3.5, Takumar 135/3.5, Tair 135/2.8, Pentacon 135/2.8, CZ 135/2.8, Taika 135/3.5, Takumar 150/4, Jupiter 200/4, Takumar 200/4
Exakta: Topcon 100/2.8(M42), 35/2.8, 58/1.8, 135/2.8, 135/2.8 (M42), Kyoei Acall 135/3.5
C/Y: Yashica 28/2.8, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, Zeiss Planar 50/1.4, Distagon 25/2.8
Hexanon: 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 40/1.8, 50/1.7, 52/1.8, 135/3.2, 135/3.5, 35-70/3.5, 200/3.5
P6 : Mir 38 65/3.5, Biometar 80/2.8, Kaleinar 150/2.8, Sonnar 180/2.8
Minolta SR: 28/2.8, 28/3.5, 35/2.8, 45/2, 50/2, 58/1.4, 50/1.7, 135/2.8, 200/3.5
RF: Industar 53/2.8, Jupiter 8 50/2
Enlarg: Rodagon 50/5,6, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, Vario 44-52/4, 150/5.6 180/5.6 El Nikkor 50/2,8,63/2.8,75/4, 80/5,6, 105/5.6, 135/5.6 Schneider 60/5.6, 80/5.6, 80/4S,100/5.6S,105/5.6,135/5.6, 135/5.6S, 150/5.6S, Leica 95/4 |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
congrats Orio, nice piece of metal! _________________ T* |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
ORIO:
Great, great and great pictures.
Yours 135 zeiss are wonderfull. In 2007 I sold my sonnar jena 135 3,5 MC. I'm so sorry about it, that the monday I will buy one sonnar MC again.
You must be happy. Excelent for you. CONGRATULATIONS!!!! |
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Fotal
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Fotal wrote:
guys you are killing me over here ... I'm not supposed to buy any lenses the next couple of months _________________ Mr Scott please restrain your leaps of illogic. I have said nothing. I was merely speculating. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57850 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Fotal wrote: |
guys you are killing me over here ... I'm not supposed to buy any lenses the next couple of months |
That is simple not possible _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Dear Fotal
Eat and pay yours debts tomorrow. Today buy the lens that you like. All of us do it, man. |
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
estudleon wrote: |
In 2007 I sold my sonnar jena 135 3,5 MC. I'm so sorry about it, that the monday I will buy one sonnar MC again. |
I am not noticing a big performance difference because of multicoating. The single coating of the alu version seems strong enough to handle most tasks, even against the sun.
On the other hand, I seem to prefer the more "organic" bokeh of the alu version.
And as a second plus, the alu version has 8 blades instead of 6 of the MC. If you shoot wide open does not matter, but if you like to stop down a bit, it can really improve the performance in the highlights. What makes it worse for the MC, in the first two stops the MC has the infamous "ninja star" shape that pesters even fantastic lenses like the Planar 1.4/85 west germany version. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Fotal
Joined: 02 Mar 2008 Posts: 282 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Fotal wrote:
I feel like the Swedish hockey coach asking the Canadian coach on tips how to beat them _________________ Mr Scott please restrain your leaps of illogic. I have said nothing. I was merely speculating. |
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Fotal
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Fotal wrote:
Orio wrote: |
even fantastic lenses like the Planar 1.4/85 west germany version. |
oh, that was news to me. Are there other versions of this 85 that doesn't have that? _________________ Mr Scott please restrain your leaps of illogic. I have said nothing. I was merely speculating. |
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
Fotal wrote: |
Are there other versions of this 85 that doesn't have that? |
the 85 MM doesn't have the ninja star _________________ T* |
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Congratulations! Looks really mint!
The fact that you bought another one shows that you really like this lens. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
Carsten, former Moderator
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Old list: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65 (Not up-to-date, sorry!) | http://www.lucispictor.de | http://www.alensaweek.wordpress.com |
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estudleon
Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 3754 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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estudleon wrote:
Orion: I can tell you that in my MC that I sold, at 250x, and F/4 and 5,6, I never saw ninja nothing. May be differents copies, in the jena controls.......
But you forget the best singularity of the 3,5 zebra (not MC), it enlarged the apertura as you focus close. The MC haven't it.
The MC is contrastier than the zebra (I had both), and plus in contrast was a tendency that Zeiss (and others brands) look for (others not, like MC minolta, not MD, and leica lenses previous to 1972). You know that the contrast generate a sharpest sensation. And it can be a great difference between both pictures. Then I prefer the MC . Ah.. if I buy one MC with the ninja star shape (like the fujinon sp 85 mm F/4 at 4 and 5,6), I will return this because it is faulty. Remember, Orion, that MC, zebra and the F/4 have the same formula lens (4 elements ) and the same class of glass - Schott ones-. And then, if the MC produced ninja stars, the non MC what? Flare absolute? Hum.... Well, Orion, differents points of view. Good luck. |
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