I can't stand them anymore

francotirador · Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894

Yes.
It's not the camera, It's the photographer.
Not everything that is done with a Holga is bad, not everything is art.
Your photos are good.
Not talking about them, if the orientation that was imposed on the "art" in a moment. Where all do the same, copied the same. And if you do you are dangerous and are out.
Greetings Smile

uhoh7 · Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA

magkelly · Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 182

The same people using the Holgas are the people who only a few years back were haunting Goodwill looking for Old Polaroids to do their "art" thing with. Only now getting Polaroid film costs so they have to use something that they can more easily afford. My roommate used to do this with Polaroids, take blurry pics of herself in the bathroom mirror and call it art.

Whatever...

I can well understand the charm of old cameras, SPII girl here, and I don't even mind a grunge filter used appropriately now and again for the sake of fun. But slapping a grunge filter on a bad photo isn't art. A light leak seldom is art.

It's pretentious BS that any 6 year old can do, but then again so is about 65% of anything you see in half the modern art exhibits around the globe. One dot on a canvas does NOT a painting make, sorry.

There's real art and there's art for made for the posers. The former sometimes ends up in museums but usually the latter has the bigger price tag, unless of course the painter, who probably wasn't appreciated or popular enough in his or her lifetime is long dead and preferably had a tragic story attached to his/her art. Then of course it sells, and in the end that's what most "art" is about these days, how much $$$$ it can command.

If a trendy "artist" sneezes, then puts their wadded up, snot filled kleenex on a canvas, touches it with gold and hangs it on a wall, that in some people's minds will be ART.

Go figure...

francotirador · Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Posts: 894

+1

goombles · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 136 Location: UK

Humerous read but you're right magkelly.

cooltouch · Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas

Kram · Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR

What I see in my country (USA) is a group of art insiders who went to the same schools and subscribe to the same aesthetic. They exhibit and create mundane images which make photography into a boring medium, which appears to make it seem that, as my mentor used to say (sarcastically): "Anyone can do it, it's the button on the right."

That's part of the art world, but in the end, real artists will survive the test of time. I prefer those with a unique vision, those who's work you can recognize without being told who created it.

This thing, this finding a unique voice can be very difficult but is most important.

uhoh7 · Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA

cooltouch · Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas

uhoh7 · Joined: 24 Nov 2010 Posts: 1300 Location: Idaho, USA

Kram · Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR

uhoh- what a concept! You should pitch that to Hollywood (if it hasn't happened already)!
Twisted Evil

Haley, you nasty coffee-drinking hypocrite- you forgot to mention that you use a lensbaby!
Twisted Evil

I don't care what people shoot as long as they help keep film alive, especially medium format.
Cool

nemesis101 · Expire: 2015-01-22

Been done in UK where they gave various people a camera phone, a P&S a bridge camera and a DSLR..

The most intersting images often came from the P&S where the lack of fussing over controls gave a ceertain spontainaity, the camera phone ones were almost always blurry and often the bridge camera was too slow.. so the winners were usually the fast simple P&S and the DSLR?

Doug

luisalegria · Expire: 2018-01-18

Orio has reinvented the argument of Tom Wolfe and applied it to photography.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Painted_Word

Very funny book really.

eeyore_nl · Joined: 09 Nov 2008 Posts: 837 Location: Netherlands

magkelly · Joined: 06 Jul 2010 Posts: 182

I really don't like reality shows to begin with. But even the thought of a weekly reality show with Sarah Palin in it is enough to make me gag. If that woman were to ever win a presidential election I would probably marry an 80 year old lecherous undertaker if that's what it would take to get my arse out of this country permanently.

At that point. I don't think I could take it, stay here and not end up raving in a mental hospital over what my country has become. That woman in office would end up making Bush look like a lightweight in the "I'm so mentally deficient I should be committed for everyone's own good before it's too late" department and we'd never survive any war she'd participate in.

I'd love to see a competent female president in office in my lifetime. (Or a competent male president either for that matter.) But Palin?

Oh F- NO!

That woman is completely NUTS and every word out of her mouth lately confirms it. Let her stay a television personality. I don't have to watch her in that case. But if she becomes president I'm giving up on my birth country and running for Europe because at that point I will KNOW that America has truly gone to H-E-L-L and there is no chance of recovery.

peterqd · Expire: 2014-01-04

cooltouch · Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9097 Location: Houston, Texas