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I appear to have bought myself a "Wundertüte"
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:24 pm    Post subject: I appear to have bought myself a "Wundertüte" Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I look forward your opinon Dave , many people say this is a good lens even if price tag say opposite opinion.


PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, it was cheap enough to take a chance on, and I'm interested in the possibility (as mentioned on Robert Monaghan's site) of converting one for P6 mount by shortening the tube - apparently the image circle is large.


PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congratulations! I have got one of these 8/500. It's amazing which quality you can get out of that. For me, as one who rarely shoots with long tele lenses, this lens is perfect. Cheap enough to "have" one, even if you don't use it often.


PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2008 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Everyone should have a Wundertüte.... Laughing

I've still got mine from new - £59 from Jessops in '86. Smile


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I am NOT telling my 10 year old that they make "WunderTutes" for cameras!

These long lenses can give very good results. I used a 400/6.3 Tele-Astranar for years.


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Congratulations !

They are (mostly), "Wunderful".

And they make pretty good outdoors portrait lenses, oddly enough. You just have to be some considerable distance from the subject.


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, way to go! I look forward to some images from this monster! Even though it is large, it still retains a sylistic beauty. Here's hoping that the glass is sharp and crisp (probably is)!

Larry


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Laurence wrote:
Wow, way to go! I look forward to some images from this monster! Even though it is large, it still retains a sylistic beauty. Here's hoping that the glass is sharp and crisp (probably is)!

Larry


Mileages do vary - I consider this lens to be rather small, long but slender. But I've got real monsters like the Leitz Telyt 560/6.8 and a Nikkor-Q 400/4.5.

Anyway, I hope your Wundertuete is in better shape than mine. The rear element in mine was completely fogged. Still, with that element removed and the front part unscrewed it makes a nice long extension tube - the front thread of this assembly happens to be 58mm, so my EL-Nikkor 180/5.6 fits perfectly. And the front element can serve as a 72mm thread diopter.


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
How goes the adaptation to P6? Found nothing on the net? Maybe you have the link handy?

Eugen


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Eugen Mezei wrote:
How goes the adaptation to P6? Found nothing on the net? Maybe you have the link handy?

Eugen


There's no direct instruction, but a reference to it being done in the past. Archive.org seems to be off at the moment, but this is a direct copy of Robert Monaghan's page I was referring to... http://bbs.dartmouth.edu/~fangq/blog/index.cgi?note/photo/3PartyLens

This bit is very informative...
"Recently, Cambridge Camera Exchange has marketed these 500mm f/8 lenses for use with various medium format cameras. Yes, you read that right! Many 35mm long telephotos have enough coverage for 6x4.5cm and even 6x6 focal plane cameras. Models such as the Mamiya 645 and Hasselblad focal plane F200x series are available. Cost was $395 US, although the same 500mm f/8 lens in 35mm mount is only $99 to $129 US (multi-coated). The medium format lenses reportedly used mounts provided by a German firm (Dr. Zork). (see homebrew lenses for photos and details)."


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I read in a GDR fotomagazine from the 60s an adaptation of an M42 lens to the P6 with marginal vignetting. Unfortunately I can't remember which lens it was, maybe the 200 Pentacon.

Eugen


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Eugen Mezei wrote:
I read in a GDR fotomagazine from the 60s an adaptation of an M42 lens to the P6 with marginal vignetting. Unfortunately I can't remember which lens it was, maybe the 200 Pentacon.

Eugen


I've just held a Pentacon 200 and the Marep 200 in front of the P6 and got full frame illumination from each of them and both focused indoors. I must try them outside tomorrow.


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was something to modify on the rear part of the lens but as said it could be the 200 or some other Pentacon, maybe the 300.
Unfortunately I have no more access to the university bibliotheque.

Eugen


PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I suspect that keeping these as simple long lenses rather than Tele's helps keep them optically pretty good.


PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Richard_D wrote:
I suspect that keeping these as simple long lenses rather than Tele's helps keep them optically pretty good.


Much less to go wrong or worry about in manufacture, I would think. Novoflex are a prime example - a optically really simple system sold for an arm and leg.
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