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DrBB
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:53 pm Post subject: How to "repair" broken/beaten filter/attachment th |
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DrBB wrote:
any good DIY with common tools? |
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visualopsins
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Use the Search function (top of this page) to look for 'filter' in this forum 'Equipment Care and Repairs'. There are 14 topics (including yours) and such as http://forum.mflenses.com/bent-filter-ring-repair-technique-t46159.html _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
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philslizzy
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Check out my Blu-tak method
http://forum.mflenses.com/easy-filter-ring-dent-removal-ttp-with-photos-t64651,highlight,%2Bfilter+%2Bring+%2Bdent.html _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I tried the blu tak the other day with great success.  _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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philslizzy
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:47 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
Cheers Dave.
I was looking at your other method thru the link above. Nice, but time consuming. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Attila
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
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Cheers Dave.
I was looking at your other method thru the link above. Nice, but time consuming. |
Pros do almost on same way or exactly same:) _________________ -------------------------------
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philslizzy
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:37 am Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
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Cheers Dave.
I was looking at your other method thru the link above. Nice, but time consuming. |
Pros do almost on same way or exactly same:) |
I can imagine. It would need a set of these tools obviously and the advantage of using Dave's method is that you are less likely to overdo it. Which is a danger.
Mine is a quick and dirty technique requiring only the basic tools. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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Lloydy
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I have now got a few home made formers, 55, 58 and 62 I think, and they do work well. I make them from 10mm thick ABS plastic sheet and put a layer of sticky tape over the surface to stop marking the lens paint. I also use the ABS to make my punch, it's soft enough to not damage the filter thread and hard enough to transmit the force of the hammer. And again I often use insulating tape over the end to make a thin and soft layer on the end of the punch.
For a badly bent filter ring I would probably use a former with the correct radius, but for lighter damage I'll be using Blu Tack _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
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guardian
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Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: |
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guardian wrote:
Has anyone any thoughts on this:
I understand the methods already discussed work well to remedy side-on bending of the filter ring, where the ring has been struck from the side and must be put right.
I have one lens with filter ring damage where the lens was struck from the front. This end-on damage crushed the threads. There is very little inward bending of that filter ring. What I need to do is somehow to re-stretch out the ring at the crush point, opening up the crushed threads. |
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philslizzy
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philslizzy wrote:
Ooh, that sounds difficult, blu-tak or formers aren't going to sort that out easily.
I have had crushed filter threads too when a filter had been on the lens and the camera's fallen forward. I usually smash the filter* and cut the ring off with nippers, when the lens is straightened out I file down the damaged threads.
I am thinking fine pliers, pulling the damaged part forwards a fraction at a time. The filter thread will be no good anyway, that may do it,
then straighten the filter ring and file down the threads. It's what I'd try
Its going to look a mess whatever you do but it may work.
* stick duck tape over the filter glass first or attack the mount with the nippers. If you try to remove the filter with a wrench or something you may damage the internals of the lens. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
| philslizzy wrote: |
Ooh, that sounds difficult, blu-tak or formers aren't going to sort that out easily.
I have had crushed filter threads too when a filter had been on the lens and the camera's fallen forward. I usually smash the filter* and cut the ring off with nippers, when the lens is straightened out I file down the damaged threads.
I am thinking fine pliers, pulling the damaged part forwards a fraction at a time. The filter thread will be no good anyway, that may do it,
then straighten the filter ring and file down the threads. It's what I'd try
Its going to look a mess whatever you do but it may work.
* stick duck tape over the filter glass first or attack the mount with the nippers. If you try to remove the filter with a wrench or something you may damage the internals of the lens. |
Thanks. Sorry for any confusion owing to the unclear way I wrote earlier. There is (and was) no filter on this lens. It is the filter ring, the filter thread, of the lens itself that took the straight-on hit. Sadly.
And I agree: this is a tough one to put right without a donor lens! |
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