How to buy old manual focus lenses (for beginners)

[Attila]

Some thoughts for beginners...

http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/How-to-buy-old-manual-focus-lenses_W0QQugidZ10000000004218732
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

[Orio]

Very good idea and very useful guide, bravo!

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[Richard_D]

Should be useful for newcomers. I just hope prices of those I'm bidding on don't rise too quickly
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The interesting bit:

Nikkors: 20mm f2.8 AIS, 24mm f2.8 AIS, 28mm f2.8 AIS, 35mm f2 AIS, 50mm f1.4 AI, 50mm f1.48AI, 50m f2 AI,
55mm f3.5 AI'd, 105mm f4 AI, 135mm f2.8 AI'd, 135mm f3.5 AI'd, 200mm f4 AI'd .
Nikon E Series: 100mm f2.8 .
Soviet Nikon Mount: Zenitar 16mm f2.8, Arsat/arax/photex 85mm T&S f2.8 .
Other: Asahi Super Takumar 55 mm f2 (M42) ,Tamron 300mm f5.6 SP, Tamron 500mm f8 SP.

DSLR: Nikon D700. 35mm SLRsNikon FE, Pentax S1a.
TLR: Rolliecord II.
Sub-Minature: Pentax Auto 110, 18mm f2.8, 24mm f2.8, 50mm f2.8.

More to come...

[LucisPictor]

Well done, Attila.

P.S.: You might want to check the link to your shop, it doesn't work.
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More? http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65

[Seymore]

Well done Attila.

Allow me to ask, will you be enhancing this? ...adding to it? May want to consider adding the difference between auto and preset lenses. Also cover the testing of the aperture blades for oil on the blades?

But just a couple thoughts...
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[Attila]

I will say big thank you guys if you improve it , many thanks in advance!

Link is fixed, thank you Carsten!
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

[Rob Leslie]

My advice to beginners is to buy a couple of very cheap lenses and then learn to SEE ‘Performance’
Performance isn’t just sharpness, it is also resolution. By comparing shots from a decent lens and a mediocre one the ‘Beginner’ should start to see the differences.
Once one feels confident that they can tell a good lens from a poor one they can begin to serious seek the lenses they want.
I suggest a trip round the dealers, armed with your camera. Try lenses and take the results home to check.
Bargains on eBay are now rare. It can be a bit of fun buying lenses. Trying them and then putting them back up for sale, but most people get tired of that and would rather get on with some photography. Buying from shops is much a better option and in most cases cheaper than eBay.
I have bought and sold many lenses on eBay but all my best lenses have been from shops and even car boot sales.
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[pixelbart]

One thing that works for me is to buy cameras, not lenses. People who sell "that old camera they found in the basement" usually have no idea of the lenses, because in their eyes, they're just accessories. On the popular Dutch auction site marktplaats.nl, I often see Pentax M 50mm f/1.7 lenses being sold for EUR 50 or higher in the "lenses" section, while the same lens with a Pentax ME as rear cover can be bought for as little as 30 Euros in the "analog cameras" section...
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[Attila]

Excellent idea!
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

[no-X]

I tried to buy camers with lenses, but all of them were infected by fungus

Anyway, I can only have bad luck, because about 30% lenses I bought from ebay, were defective or in worse condition, than described (sellers with 99%+ feedback!). Fungus, flaws on MC, slow diaphragm, bad servicing (focusing to 2-3m, loose glass elements = half of picture fuzzy or soft image at each aperture value, loose barrel... etc.)

Most of the sellers refunded my payment, or gave me some kind of discount (I mostly request 50%, if the item is not as described, but functional), but not all of them were willing...
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<30mm: CZJ eMC Flektogon 20/2.8, Vivitar (Tokina) Series 1 VMC 28/1.9, Vivitar (Komine) MC close-focus 28/2.8
35mm: Super Takumar 35/2 PRO, S-M-C Takumar 35/2, S-M-C Takumar 35/3.5, CZJ eMC Flektogon 35/2.4, SC Curtagon 35/2.8, SC Baby-C 35/2.8, Vivitar 35/1.9
50mm: S-M-C Takumar 50/1.4, Tomioka Cosinon MC 55/1.4, Tomioka Yashinon 55/1.2, CZJ Biotar T 58/2, CZJ eMC Pancolar 50/1.8, MMZ Helios MC 44-3 58/2, Helios 77M 50/1.8, JOV Helios 77M-4 50/1.8, KMZ Zenitar M2s MC 50/2, KMZ Industar 50/3.5
85mm: CZJ eMC Pancolar 80/1.8, KMZ Helios 40-2 85/1.5 (custom hybrid of 40 and 40-2)

[Attila]

Sorry to hear that, I have lot more less bad experience with sellers.
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version