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Oldhand
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 Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:43 am Post subject: How Many Different Lenses Use the Sonnar Design? |
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Oldhand wrote:
I have been using a lovely little Jupiter 8M lately and I really love the results that its rendering produces for my type of photography.
Now I know that there are several different focal lengths that have appeared in sonnar design.
The question occurred to me - how many different lenses used this design?
I do not know.
Perhaps we can start a list.
Thinking caps on time......
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kds315*
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kds315* wrote:
Well, quite a few come into mind, the 2.5/105mm Nikkor, the famous Pentax f2/58mm...
Here is a well known list of rangefinder Sonnar-type lenses: http://www.antiquecameras.net/sonnarlens.html
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Teemō
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Location: Australia
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Teemō wrote:
How exactly is a Sonnar defined and identified? I have one in mind but I think it's actually an Ernostar or Planar. It does have a focus shift which is a known Sonnar characteristic but perhaps it applies to the other types also?
It's the Minolta 100mm F2 of 1961. They also applied the same formula to their 135mm F2.8.
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Teemō
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Teemō wrote:
Here's a few more in the same list: https://www.rangefinderforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69170 |
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visualopsins
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
Hey I'll take two of those #13 85/1.5 Nikkors!  . Were they really that inexpensive in 2009?!
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M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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marcusBMG
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marcusBMG wrote:
I think this has come up before. Anyway here is a comprehensive discussion of "sonnar" optics. Albeit in Italian.
http://www.marcocavina.com/articoli_fotografici/Bertele_Sonnar/00_pag.htm
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iangreenhalgh1
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hundreds. It was even used on compact cameras like the Nikon L35AF. The Schneider Tele-Xenar in many models such as the 4/135 and 3.5/135s are Sonnars
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