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Juanma
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 Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: How do you focus? |
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Juanma wrote:
Another question to get to know you a bit better.
When using manual lenses in your DSlrs, which method do you use to focus properly?
a) A replaced split prism focusing screen (Virtual Village, Haoda...)
b) An adapter with focus confirmation chip
c) A Canon 5D with its huge viewfinder with or without the accesory Canon precision focusing screen
d) My eyes are sharper than an eagle's and can focus without help on any APS-C camera with no problems. 
e) Viewfinder Magnifier
In my case I have one adapter with focus confirmation and one without, so it's a mix of b and d
Thank you for your answers! 
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Richard_D wrote:
I find my D200's focus confirmation indicator is pretty much spot on, but the viewfinder is bright enough to focus by eye anyway.
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Nelson
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Nelson wrote:
With my 350D i must trust my eyes, and sometime they lie to me
Moreover i use glasses to correct my vision.
So it is not easy for me to always trust in my focus.
I can see something sharp in the viewfinder and in fact i just have corrected my vision with focus and the picture is not focus 
I'll buy an adapter with AF confirm |
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
A combination of B and C
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Flor27
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Flor27 wrote:
First I used D only, then I thougth it was nice to try the cheap Virtual Village A.
After having received B, I had also confirmation that the 350D AF is sometime front or back focusing, depending on the lens, so I took E option (not listed here because it's an eyefinder magnifier  ) and it was more comfortable (1.2x factor).
As I did more and more portraits, A solution was just pain as the split prism was often unusable on faces (no straight line) so I put back the mat screen.
Finaly I have switched for C solution with now precision screen !
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Attila
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Attila wrote:
On every Nikon focus confirmation works perfectly I didn't want anything else.
On Olympus E-1 I replaced to Katz-Eye split screen it lot better than without that, but not reach focus confirmation convince.
On Olympus E-300 don't need any tool just works fine with genuine focusing screen!!!
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Jesito wrote:
Just B, I tried the VV focusing screen but I was not able to do a 100% precission tune. And of course, I didn't get a 5D ...
Best regards.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Jes, for Canon focus confirmation adapter works perfect.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
just A
But I want C with F = liveview
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Jesito
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
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| Jes, for Canon focus confirmation adapter works perfect. |
Hi Attila, I wouldn't say "perfect", but quite good on larger focal lengths. For 28mm and down, the focusing is still tricky (at least for me).
Best regards,
Jes.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Ahh. ok.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Maxim wrote:
D - I must trust my eyes. It's rather easy for me - the viewfinder in E-300 is better than I expected. Of course this viewfinder looks ridiculous in comparison with big viewfinder in my old Praktica. Sometimes, when my eyes are tired, I can't focus correctly.
And... I don't have any AF lenses.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
A combination of B and D. But D with the help of E.
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patrickh wrote:
My nikons 200 and 70 have what seem to be accurate focus confirmation with all lenses that are attached. A big plus for the Nikon. My Oly300 has no such thing and I cannot really use it - very dim viewfinder and poor eyesight make the whole thing a crapshoot. Has quite spoilt or at least delayed my M42 playing. Looking forward to arrival of a new Canon 40D next week and some chipped adapters.
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Attila wrote:
Wow! Canon 40D hmmm Congrats! If you planning to sell your Olympus E-300 might be I will buy it.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: How do you focus? |
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Farside wrote:
| Juanma wrote: |
Another question to get to know you a bit better.
When using manual lenses in your DSlrs, which method do you use to focus properly?
a) A replaced split prism focusing screen (Virtual Village, Haoda...) |
Tried it, didn't work too well and I'm now back to the standard screen. Might try another make.
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| b) An adapter with focus confirmation chip |
Will definitely be getting one soon, and more later.
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c) A Canon 5D with its huge viewfinder with or without the accesory Canon precision focusing screen |
If only... someday.
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d) My eyes are sharper than an eagle's and can focus without help on any APS-C camera with no problems. |
That certainly used to be true - it's surprised me how crap my eyesight has become just in the past couple of years. Of course, a dozy optician didn't help - he misread my right eye (my focusing eye) and I now have to get another set of lenses for my specs.
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I might try that, it's an easy and cheap gadget.
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patrickh wrote:
Sorry Attila
I have promised it to my daughter and her husband - it's the only way I can be reasonably sure that they will take pictures of the baby due i March (my third grandson - and I had four daughters!)
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Attila wrote:
No problem at all I just thought you don't want to keep. I am glad if you keep it this is an excellent cam.
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impactcr wrote:
A.
cheap sh*ty 20euro split prism focusing screen made in china,but it gets the job done
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