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Jigt
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: HELIOS TELE AUTO F:4.5 F=300 MM |
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Jigt wrote:
Never heard of this helios!
anybody with experience with this lens?
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3209 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Neither did I but I guess that could be a Tair.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Or it could be a Japanese Helios-wannabe. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Can you show pictures from this lens ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Jigt
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Jigt wrote:
This should be the lens!
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Jigt
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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Jigt wrote:
This is the lens list of the lenses on the picture!
AUTO CHINON 1:1.9 50 MM 49
AUTO CHININ 1:2.8 F=135 MM NR 577180
IFOCO AUTO 1:2.8 F=28 MM 55 NR 10241
HELIOS TELE AUTO F:4.5 F=300 MM 72 NR 544763_1
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Himself wrote: |
Neither did I but I guess that could be a Tair.
Sorin |
Yes, that's what I thought. Sometimes the TAIRs are offered as Zenit or Helios... _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Jigt
Joined: 16 Mar 2007 Posts: 412 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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Jigt wrote:
These lensnames come from the filterring?
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I am pretty sure this lens has no relation to Tair or any other Russian makers.Rather a crap Japanese lens, they bought Carl Zeiss Jena and Helios name when communism was close to end. Quality is much different than genuine lenses have. If you look the lens finish they are very close to each other. _________________ -------------------------------
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Ballu
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 912 Location: Columbus, OH. USofA
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ballu wrote:
Attila wrote: |
I am pretty sure this lens has no relation to Tair or any other Russian makers.Rather a crap Japanese lens, they bought Carl Zeiss Jena and Helios name when communism was close to end. Quality is much different than genuine lenses have. If you look the lens finish they are very close to each other. |
hmm.. you are saying close.. I am seeing the same rubber grip.... May be from the same rubber mat is used for all...
I also have of these Japanese crap (most).. low in contrast, weird colors..
but again, sometimes you can be lucky.. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
I agree with Balu if you can get extra cheap , try it. If not ok throw out, if fine keep it. _________________ -------------------------------
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Right, after having seen the picture, I agree. It is not a Tair 300 version.
So, really, try it if you can get it cheaply. _________________ Personal forum activity on pause every now and again (due to job obligations)!
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Borges
Joined: 09 Mar 2007 Posts: 646 Location: Moers, Germany
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Borges wrote:
Definitly no Helios from the former SU. "Our" Helios is based on the optical Biotar-Scheme, so the longest focal length that was build by KMZ and others was 85mm.
I've seen lens of this kind often, I also think it's japanese or korean.
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 29545 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
I would not even try it. The reputation of Japanese Helioses is dubious to say the least. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Rob Leslie
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 1103 Location: UK Swindon
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Rob Leslie wrote:
I agree with others. To me it looks like a cheap lens. The green on it reminds me a few inc Hamimex. The line up it is with also say 'Cheap bought at local electric chain store' (UK read Dixons) _________________ Pentax K10D & K100D. Many Tamron Adaptall SP lenses, Fujinon f4.5 400mm. A loved Lens Baby 2, Lubitel triplet +++ and many film cameras. Mainly a Digital user inc G5, GR2
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 17633 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Still, if you can get it cheap, go for it!
I've got a Hanimex Tele-Lens 4/100
and a Greens London 3.5/135
and also a Weltblick 3.5/135
Each of these lenses bear the name of a "cheap" brand and each of them is surprisingly good, although I got them for under € 10,- each.
What I want to say, you always should try a lens first. Even the "cheap" ones can surprise you.
OK, you most probably won't get a high-end performance for little money, but sometimes lenses are better than you expect.
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57839 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Agree, I test almost every lens under 20 EUR, except Hanimex, Soligor etc )) kidding. _________________ -------------------------------
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Rob Leslie
Joined: 20 Mar 2007 Posts: 1103 Location: UK Swindon
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Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Rob Leslie wrote:
Agreed you can get some good ones. Mine was a 'Dollands' 200mm. It reminds me of the CZ in that it is sharp but very smooth with it. Must admit I hardly use it but at a cost of ?5 it is worth keeping. Tamrons are of course always surprissing me. The last BIG surprise was the 80-210 model 103A which I only bought for the M42 mount on it. The lens was in the cupboard for about a year till somebody started posting pictures from one. I took it and gave it a good try and Wow this little lens should have been SP.
Must not forget it also goes the other way. I was over the moon to be offered the Vivitar Series 1 f4.5 450mm Solid Cat mirror. It was claimed to be the only one in the UK (From Vivitar's Showroom) I was lent the lens for a whole week and couldn't get a sharp picture from it. Considering they wanted ?200 for the lens it was the worse buy I have seen. What yours? _________________ Pentax K10D & K100D. Many Tamron Adaptall SP lenses, Fujinon f4.5 400mm. A loved Lens Baby 2, Lubitel triplet +++ and many film cameras. Mainly a Digital user inc G5, GR2
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