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Flor27
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 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: Helios-44 hacked ? |
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Flor27 wrote:
Hi,
I've found this on a "Best portrait lens for Canon" thread somewhere :
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«One of the most sought after Portrait Lenses for any camera that has an adapter that allows it to be used is the Russian made Jupiter-9 85mm f/1.5. It is a phenomenal cult classics lens!
Also, another is the Helios-44m 58mm f/2 that has been modified (forget the original gentleman's name who started doing them waaayy back) but he reversed one of the inner elements in this lens and it produced the most beautiful portraits I have ever seen!!
They blow anything Canon, Nikon, Sigma, Tamron, or Tokina has ever produced!! The only lens that comes close is the 85mm f/1.4 Zeiss and the Jupiter-9 85mm f/2 lens.» |
Does anyone already hear or done that on the famous & cheap Helios-44 ?
Thanks
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
This guy is must be blind, Helios-44 and Jupiter-9 are good lenses but never blow Nikon ... best ones, this is simple stupid.
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Orio wrote:
Attila, he was not making a general statement. What he meant was that this custom modification he made, beats the soft focus lenses made by Nikon Canon etc.
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:01 am Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
I think that he refers to the Helios-44 with the changed internal element.
This probably will cause a soft effect that costs a lot of money when you buy it in 135mm lenses by Canon and Nikon.
If somebody likes a softened portrait, he will be amazed by what this "hacked" lens can produce.
I've tried that with my PK-mount Hanimex C-Macro 4.5/80-200 and the effect is amazing. The lens only produces a sharp area right in the centre of the frame, but I do not need this lens as a "normal" lens, so I left it this way. And now I have a very special portrait lens.
EDIT: Orio, we again had the same thought at the same time. 
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LucisPictor
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LucisPictor wrote:
@Flor27: Can you remember where you've found that? I would like to know which element this guy changed...
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Flor27
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Flor27 wrote:
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| @Flor27: Can you remember where you've found that? I would like to know which element this guy changed... |
The guy has said no more than the part I've quoted, that's why ask it here
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LucisPictor wrote:
Ah, ok. Thanks.
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bob955i
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bob955i wrote:
You can reverse the rear element in the Orestor 135 to get a soft focus (Or OOF to me...) look - I found this out the hard way after dismantling one of mine to fix a loose internal element and give it a clean.
After I got it reassembled, I checked the focus at infinity to find it wouldn't. After much head scratching as I hadn't disturbed the focus helix, I looked at the rear element and thought, have I refitted this the right way round?
After removing it and flipping it over, infinity focus was magically restored..... |
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Puplet
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Puplet wrote:
Have you got any pictures from that Hanimex you can share, LucisP? I'd love to see (before I start taking a lens apart).... |
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Attila wrote:
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| Attila, he was not making a general statement. What he meant was that this custom modification he made, beats the soft focus lenses made by Nikon Canon etc. |
Ahh ,ok, thanks!That is fairly easy remember for my fujinon soft 
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
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| Have you got any pictures from that Hanimex you can share, LucisP? I'd love to see (before I start taking a lens apart).... |
Not at hand, but I can show you a test pic. Give a minute...
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Here you are. These pics are far from good, but they should be OK to show the effect.
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hacksawbob wrote:
I tried this hack with the 44-2 I reversed the rear element, has little efect, second element, reduces focusing down to about 30cm otherwise little effect, third element focusing becomes impossible. I also tried reversing the first and second elements together and has the same results as just focusing the second (30cm focus)
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Puplet wrote:
Thanks, Lucis! |
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