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 Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: Harpastum match |
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Orio wrote:
The Harpastum was a ball game played by male Romans. It is considered as one of the ancestors of rugby and possibly also of (European) football.
The purpose of the match was to bring the ball (made of pressed fabrics) beyond the goal line of the opposite team. Both hands and feet could be used, and all contact was allowed, also violent and unfair. It was a very tough game.
These guys played one Harpastum match during the centuriations market reenlivement. They played it _really_ hard, don't know if this surfaces from the photos. It was a fun show to see. At the same time, I am sure now that I would have never wanted to be an Harpastum player. 
All photos taken with Leitz Apo-Telyt-R 180mm on the Canon 50D
(therefore with an enlargement corresponding to 288mm focal lenght):
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 4:29 am Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Orio
Looks very much like rugby - an insane game played by young hooligans (of whom I was one many many years ago). Your usual brilliant selection giving a real "feel"of the action. That lens is a marvel - (spelt jealousy).
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
wow! great apo, skins are impressive, lens is dream
such perfect manual focus with 288mm in action is a performance
the last one is my favorite, look like a cartoon! crazy one! |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Stunning set and #5 is priceless! |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks Patrick poilu and Bill. I am very happy with these captures, because it's not easy to catch such a fast confusing action with (the equivalent of) almost a 300mm lens and no tripod support.
And yes I also think #5 is really humour !
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Rolf wrote:
100 points for the photographer and additional 100 points for the lens.
The sum: perfect !!
And #5 is really remarkable.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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trifox wrote:
Orio, this set is stunning!!!
Well, the IQ is speaking for itself and your skills are giving to these pictures 100 per cent quality.
Yes, the 5 is REALLY FUNNY!! I love it
Number 6 is the winner in my eyes, and the last one --
that's a picture for some poster about this game!!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
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| Stunning set and #5 is priceless! |
+5
It really looks like rugby game, never heard of "Harpastum" before.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Great, great series with funny moments!
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Spotmatic wrote:
I had a good laugh while looking at this set... Simply stunning and it shows why we did not need AF for 120 years 
Interestingly, I know nothing about Harpastum, even never read about it, even though I'm very interested in the Romans because I live close to the northernmost border of the Roman empire and I have worked at many excavations in the area (mostly at native villages). Again, this is new to me and thanks for triggering my interest!
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
They're very impressive.
Details are awesome : skins, muscles, smiles, laughs...
Great serie Orio !
N°5 for my wife, please.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Nesster wrote:
Excellent shots, the guys look like they are having a ton of fun... and I'm feeling old and over the hill 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Super stuff!
I suspect the tackling player in #5 was wishing he hadn't.
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PaulC wrote:
Super photos, I had to laugh at one of them (my wife was shocked!). I've never heard of this game before.
The small sensor crop doesn't really create a longer effective focal length, that's just a myth ... but I'm sure you know that.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
| PaulC wrote: |
| Super photos, I had to laugh at one of them (my wife was shocked!). |
Maybe I should sell it to Coppertone to renew their ad campaign
| PaulC wrote: |
| The small sensor crop doesn't really create a longer effective focal length, that's just a myth ... but I'm sure you know that. |
Yes, and that is why I wrote:
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| with an enlargement corresponding to 288mm focal lenght |
instead of "enlargement" I should have perhaps used the word "cropping" but in the end it's the same (the enlargement is a consequence of the cropping).
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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PaulC wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
| PaulC wrote: |
| The small sensor crop doesn't really create a longer effective focal length, that's just a myth ... but I'm sure you know that. |
Yes, and that is why I wrote:
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| with an enlargement corresponding to 288mm focal lenght |
instead of "enlargement" I should have perhaps used the word "cropping" but in the end it's the same (the enlargement is a consequence of the cropping). |
I don't really agree with that, either. It is the same as saying that a 50mm lens on a 35mm SLR has a crop corresponding to a 105mm focal length, because that gives you the same field of view (more or less) on 6x9. Nobody would make that claim, they just treat MF and 35mm as two different things because they record different image sizes, which seems to me the way to think of full-frame and crop.
We don't talk about 645 and 6x6 being one-half and two-third crop formats, with corresponding increased "reach" in the lenses, do we?
The different pixel densities (equivalent to different grain sizes) in different sensors affects maximum print size (and therefore the apparent magnification of the lens) more than the crop factor, so the "enlargement" of a 6.3MP crop sensor is not the same as the "enlargement" of a 15MP one.
So I think this concept is meaninless but it really does mislead novices into thinking that a small sensor is better than a big one because of the supposed "magnification factor"..
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| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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I don't really agree with that, either. It is the same as saying that a 50mm lens on a 35mm SLR has a crop corresponding to a 105mm focal length, because that gives you the same field of view (more or less) on 6x9. Nobody would make that claim, they just treat MF and 35mm as two different things because they record different image sizes, which seems to me the way to think of full-frame and crop.
We don't talk about 645 and 6x6 being one-half and two-third crop formats, with corresponding increased "reach" in the lenses, do we?
The different pixel densities (equivalent to different grain sizes) in different sensors affects maximum print size (and therefore the apparent magnification of the lens) more than the crop factor, so the "enlargement" of a 6.3MP crop sensor is not the same as the "enlargement" of a 15MP one.
So I think this concept is meaninless but it really does mislead novices into thinking that a small sensor is better than a big one because of the supposed "magnification factor".. |
May I say that I find that you are exceedingly picky on this subject?
My remark was made only to point out that it's not easy to handle actions shots when *what you see* in the viewfinder corresponds to a 288mm focal lenght framing. That was all.
I think that this was fairly easy to understand, unless one *wanted* to make an argument out of it on purpose...
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PaulC wrote:
Maybe I'm just in a picky mood today. It's one of my weaknesses.
Yes, of course the crop makes it harder to freeze the action and, as I said, it is a first-class series of shots.
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Orio wrote:
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| Maybe I'm just in a picky mood today. It's one of my weaknesses. |
No problem. I sometimes am also
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| Yes, of course the crop makes it harder to freeze the action and, as I said, it is a first-class series of shots. |
thanks!
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tobbsman wrote:
I missed that thread.
Really fabulous shots! This lens renders very special colors, different than anything else what I saw so far.
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