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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:21 am    Post subject: Gymnasts - Vario-Sonnar 80-200 Reply with quote
"...and joyous I fly
in the spirit divine".

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent! You froze the moment beautifully.
Those girls hit the gym regularly.
Look at the one in black, in background. Huge quadriceps.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio, you did a good job cloning out the wires that are suspending them! Wink

Excellent catch!


PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Himself wrote:
Excellent! You froze the moment beautifully.
Those girls hit the gym regularly.
Look at the one in black, in background. Huge quadriceps.


You have excellent eyes. Shocked Of the whole group, she's the one who is also in the national team of rhythmic gymnastics.

The girls are not only trained physically but also stylistically. Their teachers want them to move, walk etc always using canons of classical style.
Not only when they perform, but also off stage, always.
See this following photo:



the same girl you spotted is there talking to friends and she has her body posed like the Apollon Sauroktonos:


Not all of them are so persevering, but some are, and it's really enchanting to watch them move, especially when you compare them to the common girls
who walk and move with no style and grace at all, looking like vulgar tomboys.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Orio, you did a good job cloning out the wires that are suspending them! Wink
Excellent catch!


Laughing


PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Very nice catch in a flight, it has 3D-ness too. I guess the beauty of
body movement must have come from daily life under training just like
"geiko-san" in Kyoto, who have to go through similar life + training eveyday.
Of course they do not dance like in Orio's photo, but geiko-san's behaviour
is very smooth and elegant too. (Yes, they do dance in a different manner.)


PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
koji wrote:
Very nice catch in a flight, it has 3D-ness too. I guess the beauty of
body movement must have come from daily life under training just like
"geiko-san" in Kyoto, who have to go through similar life + training eveyday.


Absolutely yes!
They have one male teacher and one female teacher. I saw myself female teacher correcting the walk and body movement to younger ones, teaching them how they should bend to pick up something from the ground, how they should turn when someone calls from behind (turn whole trunk, not just neck) et cetera

koji wrote:
Of course they do not dance like in Orio's photo, but geiko-san's behaviour
is very smooth and elegant too. (Yes, they do dance in a different manner.)


I believe that. Every art that teaches body control has something of the dance in it.
Like martial arts, they look a lot like dance to me.
These girls are not dancers, they are gymnasts, but they must learn dance because juries in gymnastic contests will judge them not only for muscles and jumps etc, but also for grace of movement.


PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Had to come back for my third, no fourth, OK fifth look at these. Wink

Got any more? Cool


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Had to come back for my third, no fourth, OK fifth look at these. Wink
Got any more? Cool


yeap, the real McCoy Laughing
(one day one of you American friends will have to explain to me where does that saying come from) Smile

All the photos were taken with the 80-200 Contax zoom.
I repost the already posted images in order to keep the original flow:

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Excellent series Orio!
Let me guess, the woman in the background with tights and sunglasses is the trainer.
She doesn't look happy. See the hand across the chest.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wonderful shots, Orio. It has been only three generations or so since any family of substance sent their daughters to finshing school to learn how to walk, sit, stand, eat, dance, curtsy and ride fluidly. No they were not athletes like these girls, but the principles were the same.
Vulgar tomboys, indeed ... Cool


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
A minor thread hijack, the origin of "The Real McCoy" lies in Scotland Wink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_real_McCoy

More comments on the photos and training to follow (I think) as what I want to say falls into mental organizing for communicating...for now, the National Team member is very charismatic, but the flyer has such natural grace and the beauty of inner happiness, sheer joy. Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow, Orio, some real stunners here! Shocked You have a great sense of
timing catching them where they defy gravity, amazing! The black and red
colors of their costumes...I figure the black is for advanced/senior or top of the class students? Curious.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Himself wrote:
Excellent series Orio!
Let me guess, the woman in the background with tights and sunglasses is the trainer.
She doesn't look happy. See the hand across the chest.


Good guess #2 !
You should make the detective Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
fish4570 wrote:
Wonderful shots, Orio. It has been only three generations or so since any family of substance sent their daughters to finshing school to learn how to walk, sit, stand, eat, dance, curtsy and ride fluidly. No they were not athletes like these girls, but the principles were the same.
Vulgar tomboys, indeed ... Cool


Thanks Fish. I so much agree.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
visualopsins wrote:
A minor thread hijack, the origin of "The Real McCoy" lies in Scotland Wink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_real_McCoy


Haha! Thanks. I love these stories. I'll use "McKay" from now on!

visualopsins wrote:
More comments on the photos and training to follow (I think) as what I want to say falls into mental organizing for communicating...for now, the National Team member is very charismatic, but the flyer has such natural grace and the beauty of inner happiness, sheer joy. Very Happy


Yes, that was a very lucky shot as I catched a great expression on her face. If she didn't smile that way the photo would have been weaker.
Which reminds us street photographers that we have to do with a very elusive matter. We can do our best, but so many factors are out of our direct control.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Katastrofo wrote:
Wow, Orio, some real stunners here! Shocked You have a great sense of
timing catching them where they defy gravity, amazing!


Thanks Bill. That's the most fun for me. I don't know if you remember the shot I made last year in the same occasion. I'll repost it.

Katastrofo wrote:
The black and red
colors of their costumes...I figure the black is for advanced/senior or top of the class students? Curious.


I'm not 100% sure, but I think you may have guessed right!
In fact, all little pupils where in white. See there are some in the background. They did some little show too (of course for what they could do - which was not much).
I figure reds are intermediate and black are the senior ones (probably selected more for advanced level than for strictly age).
See all the red girls in 9 and 10 talking to the national team member?
That was such a funny scene!
The organization announced that there was a delay in the program and the gladiators were not ready yet. So they said the girls would go on further more with the show. As he said that I noticed a panic look on the red girls, as evidently they had not prepared another number and did not know what to do. So one of them approached the national team member (who in theory was already off) and asked her if she could please do the extra show. She joined her hands as in a prayer! It was really funny, I wish I was in movie mode in that moment instead of photo mode. Very Happy


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Reg. the colours of the tunics... they are not coded. I have other sets of photos from that weekend which I haven't been through yet, and they show the girls with different colours... so I think colours are distributed only based on the shows they have to do.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's beauty in motion!


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
That's beauty in motion!

+1, almost acrobatic!


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice seriae as usual, quite a contrast in the first between the flying girls and the people in the wheelchair in the background.


PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
hexi wrote:
Nice seriae as usual, quite a contrast in the first between the flying girls and the people in the wheelchair in the background.


Yes. I took another photo when the contrast is even more evident. I will publish it.
I also find moving the contrast in #16 between the girls and the old lady. This, and the above mentioned photo, are wanted (meaning that I composed the shots aware of the contrast).


PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well, it looks like our girl here could even be world champion now Shocked, as the Italian team just won the team title in the Rhythmic Gymnastics world championship in Moscow.
The thing I am unsure about is: is she in the main team, that won the title, or in the Junior team, in which case, of course, there's no title.
Considering the age, I'd say she probably is in the Junior team.


PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Well, it looks like our girl here could even be world champion now Shocked, as the Italian team just won the team title in the Rhythmic Gymnastics world championship in Moscow.
The thing I am unsure about is: is she in the main team, that won the title, or in the Junior team, in which case, of course, there's no title.
Considering the age, I'd say she probably is in the Junior team.


Fantastic!

As are these shots, great captures indeed. The lens itself clearly has some Sonnarness to it (obviously!), with excellent subject serparation and colours, hence it's my long zoom of choice Smile
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