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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:30 pm Post subject: Got grain? 2 from the Arista 400 roll |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I found there's a remarkable difference between Arista and Kodak/Fuji
film. Fujicolor and Kodak Gold seem to have much smaller grain. Here's
two from Arista 400 color film roll:
Konica T4/UC Hexanon 80-200 zoom
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patrickh
Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 8551 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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patrickh wrote:
Bill
That's painful, especially #2
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
patrickh wrote: |
Bill
That's painful, especially #2
patrickh |
Agree. |
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Farside
Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 6549 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
Wow, that's like 400 grainy film of 40 years ago. It reminds me of Orwo (iirc) - dirt cheap, but grainy as hell. _________________ Dave - Moderator
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montecarlo
Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1865 Location: Romania
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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montecarlo wrote:
Yes, its grainy but it has its own charm. Is doesn't make a picture to be bad (because of the grain)
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maddog10
Joined: 08 Apr 2008 Posts: 1072 Location: Maryland, USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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maddog10 wrote:
Grain, in moderation, often adds character to a shot. I like the grain on the rose, it is the leaves in the background that take away from the shot. _________________ Michael Hill |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
maddog10 wrote: |
Grain, in moderation, often adds character to a shot. I like the grain on the rose, it is the leaves in the background that take away from the shot. |
Yeah, I'm running and screaming to better film and following Jules' suggestions.
What cheap film I have left will serve as practice dummies in loading
reels.
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Schnauzer
Joined: 09 Apr 2008 Posts: 2155 Location: Maine, USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Schnauzer wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
maddog10 wrote: |
Grain, in moderation, often adds character to a shot. I like the grain on the rose, it is the leaves in the background that take away from the shot. |
Yeah, I'm running and screaming to better film and following Jules' suggestions.
What cheap film I have left will serve as practice dummies in loading
reels.
Bill |
Are you also going to try the slide film and scan it? _________________ Ron |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Schnauzer wrote: |
Are you also going to try the slide film and scan it? |
Ron, yes, slide film is definitely on my dance card for my next order from
Freestyle, both 120 and 135.
Bill |
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j.lukow
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 856 Location: Lindsay Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
The grain doesn't look too bad in the cat shot - nice specimen of the feline species. I fell it distracts in the second one.
This is what I was getting with basic Fuji 400 when I pushed it too hard - so it can happen with some of the good stuff too.
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Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
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Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jim, I placed an order with Freestyle yesterday: Reala 100, Provia 100F,
Sensia 100, Fujicolor Pro 160, just to name a few.
I wonder, has any one tried the Kodak UC film series? UC stands for
Ultracolor. |
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j.lukow
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 856 Location: Lindsay Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
@Bill
I can't say I've heard of freestyle?
Jim _________________ EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
j.lukow wrote: |
@Bill
I can't say I've heard of freestyle?
Jim |
Jim, chotto matte kudasai, I'll be right back.
OK, here it is:
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/sc_prod.php?cat_id=&pid=1000000944
Bill |
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j.lukow
Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 856 Location: Lindsay Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:25 am Post subject: |
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j.lukow wrote:
Thanks, I'll check it out.
Jim _________________ EMPLOYMENT: That which funded photography and my new woodworking business.j.lukow
Jim's Kit:
Minolta Kit: Minolta X570 & Autowinder G, Minolta SRT200
LENSES:Minolta - 45mm & 50mm F1:2, PF 58mm F1:1.4, Tamron 28mm f1:2.5, Tamron SP 35-80mm f1:2.8/3.8 & CF TeleMacro zoom 80-210 f1:3.8, Vivitar f3.0~4.5 35-200mm macro focusing zoom, f 2.8 28mm CF Wide angle, 2x macro focus teleconverter,Sigma F4 25-250, f 2.8~4 35-70mm zoom master,Tokina SD f4-5.6 70-210 zoom, f4.5 80-200 "Ultra" Zoom,AutoImage 135mm F1:2.8, Spiratone 400mm f1:6.3, Magicon f3.5-4.8 35-70mm macro zoom,Quantary f8-500 Mirror/macro lens, Accura MD mount Macro bellows
M42 Kit:Praktica PLC2,Yashica TL Electro X
LENSES:Meyer Goerlitz Oreston 50mm f1:1.8 , Auto Yashinon DX 1:1.7 50mm,Steinheil Munchen Culminar 135mm f4.5, Adaptall-2 M42 adapter
Zeiss . . . Zeiss Contaflex 126 system, Zeiss Contaflex Super
Medium Format: Pentacon sixTL
Hasselblad 500c/m - CZ 2.8-80mm planar, CZ 4-150mm sonnarCF |
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