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Pancolart
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 Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: Fuji Fujica Fujinon F1.6 multiple versions |
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Pancolart wrote:
There are three F1.6 Fujinons in front of me all different in terms of front/rear glass diameter, distance between elements...
1. 1.6/50mm x-Fujinon (also sold as PORST)
2. 1.6/55mm x-Fujinon
3. 1.6/50mm M42 (rare)
Anyone compared them yet? Or knows the formulas?
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
I have the m42 version: http://forum.mflenses.com/fujinon-1-6-55mm-m42-t34803,highlight,%2Bfujinon+%2B1+%2B6.html
I actually just ran outside and shot these two for you on my new a850. Both are @1.6. I'm expecting the "M" screen soon which should help for focusing with faster lenses. The lens exhibits a slight glow but it's not unpleasant and might be great for classic portraits. Sharpness is acceptable for a 1.6 lens, i think.
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yinyangbt
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Fuji Fujica Fujinon F1.6 multiple versions |
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yinyangbt wrote:
| Pancolart wrote: |
There are three F1.6 Fujinons in front of me all different in terms of front/rear glass diameter, distance between elements...
1. 1.6/50mm x-Fujinon (also sold as PORST)
2. 1.6/55mm x-Fujinon
3. 1.6/50mm M42 (rare)
Anyone compared them yet? Or knows the formulas? |
There are 1.6/50mm EBC and non EBC .In the 1.6/55mm there are also EBC and non EBC versions.
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themoleman342
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:31 am Post subject: |
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themoleman342 wrote:
There is no m42 EBC. |
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Arkku
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
I have the M42 55mm f/1.6 (there's no 50mm or EBC version in M42). It's clearly a budget lens, plastic aperture ring, etc (compared to metal for e.g. 55mm f/1.8 and 50mm f/1.4). Image quality is not bad, though, but I personally see it as an “effect lens” with non-smooth (but “interesting”) bokeh and slight “glow” wide open.
(Edit: Oh, actually I think I also have the 50mm f/1.6 non-EBC in X-mount, but I haven't tested it yet because it cannot be easily adapted to digital and I haven't gotten around to shooting film for a while.) |
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
Mine M42 is 55mm too, sorry about first post.
It's interesting that it has similar front element as x-Fujinon 55mm but size as whole is smaller (similar as 50mm). Well x-Fujinon 1.6/55mm is really long lens compared to other two.
Is any EBC version of different optical design or only coating has changed?
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Arkku
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
| Pancolart wrote: |
Is any EBC version of different optical design or only coating has changed? |
AFAIK only coating, based on other Fujinon lenses. |
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Pancolart
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
All three bellow. It's hard to show info with photos so some remarks:
1. Both 55mm have similar front element in terms of curvature and diameter; x-50mm is flatter.
2. M42 55mm and X-Fujinon 50mm have similar rear element (diameter, curvature); x-55mm is wider.
3. You can see the tallest by far is x-55mm from the photos.
4. Different order of lenses on photos. First photo: M42, x-50mm, x-55mm, second photo: x-55mm, M42, x-50mm.
Optical formulas would be appreciated. And Sony Nex adapter so side-by-side comparison is possible  .
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gumigumi
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| Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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gumigumi wrote:
interesting
heading to find some 55/1.6 m42
had a good experience with most fujinon lenses, now i'm curious about this one
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pat donnelly
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 4:28 am Post subject: Great Lenses! |
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pat donnelly wrote:
The smaller ones are almost "pancake" size!
The additional speed from 2.8 to 1.6 is also a big bonus! Very suitable for m4/3 or Nex.
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Excalibur wrote:
Anybody that wants to try a 50mm Fujinon bayonet lens that can be bought very cheap? I can recommend the x-Fujinon 50mm F1.9 FM, my two copies have become one of my favourite nifty fifty's.
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izvar
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 7:41 am Post subject: |
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izvar wrote:
Mine is x-Fujinon 55/1.6 with magic EBC letters on it. I'm inclined to believe that all Fujica bayonet lenses are multicoated, they have simply stopped writing EBC, like Canon stopped writing S.S.C...
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estudleon
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estudleon wrote:
Inside the M42 line, the EBC MC was inferior to the SMC. I had some fujis with EBC and Takumars with SMC. Takumars with higher contrast than fujinons
Don't know about the X mount lenses.
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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yinyangbt wrote:
X - Fujinon 55mm f1.6 EBC ( I am working at the adaptor ):
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siudym
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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siudym wrote:
I have X-Fujinon EBC 55/1.6 modded to nikon F (converted by me).
Some wide open full-res samples from S3 Pro:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/siudym/sets/72157654764150310
I have it already for some time, but I had no more time yet to test it.
More F1.6 wide open:
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IAZA
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IAZA wrote:
Nice samples
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Very interesting. Could you share with us some details of the adaptation to Nikon? I would love to adapt my copy to fit my Sony a850.
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siudym
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| Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:42 am Post subject: |
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siudym wrote:
unfortunately, does not focus into the distance, but I converted it to portraits. I used a simple adapter M42, making holes and screwed him (Slightly scratched adapter because I had to align the screws). Maybe it does not look perfect, but it works ok
On APSC is set up to focus on such a max. distance: (on FF will obviously wider)
I became intrigued by the size of the lens/optics - the difference between 1.6 and 1.7 is similar to 1.7 and F2:
Left-> Fuji 55/1.6, right Chinon 50/1.7
Wide Open F1.6, apsc fuji s3 pro, portrait:
Wide Open Nikon D700:
DOF comparison 1.8 vs 1.6 (hexanon 52/1.8 vs fujinon 55/1.6)
It would seem a small difference, but still visible. Blur is greater, less sharp. And a little more light.
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