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Freelensing meyer helioplan 165mm 6.8
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 3:37 am    Post subject: Freelensing meyer helioplan 165mm 6.8 Reply with quote

A freellens shot with the Meyer Goerlitz Doppel Anastigmat Helioplan 165mm 6.8 . I picked this up on the bay for under 20 dollars including shipping. It was in an AGC Ibsor shutter (kinda functional! ). The 13 (or so) blade aperture goes from 6.8 to 36 and is always completely round. Shutter has T B 1 2 5 10 25 50 and 100 speeds. The lens is, of course, uncoated. It was in excellent condition, with just a hint of haze despite being 80 or so years old. Shot at whatever is between 6.8 and 12.5 on the aperture, the numbers were unreadable due to goo from tape.. Straight from camera,
Resize only. Have I mentioned I like helioplans?


PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What strikes me is how easy the image is on the eye.

Nicely done Like 1 .


PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. Mostly luck I think. I came home from work and the sun was in "golden hour" the lens was on the doorstep. I quickly cobbled m42 extension tubes to the rough FL. With the m42 helicals I was able to hold the lens flush against a solid tube blocking most of the light leaking in. Then snapped a few shots of the garden flowers. This was the best shot right out of camera. It did not come with a jam nut so I'll have to get one if I want to do a solid mount. Seems it might be worth the effort. Anybody know by chance what camera type this might have been from (9x12?) Very little info about it on the net. Just looking at the shutter I'm guessing early 1930s as it is a shutter that uses the actuation as the energy to flick lens through, as opposed to a cocked spring.
Here is a shot of the lens :


PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
I'm guessing early 1930s as it is a shutter that uses the actuation as the energy to flick lens through, as opposed to a cocked spring.


http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Meyer_serial_numbers may help Wink


PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So by the Thiel numbers just prior to 1930 or just after using the first list. Cool, thanks. I'll try to post some more shots a bit later. I cobbled together a better adapter system with a nex-minolta ,minolta compact bellows- minolta m42,m42 helical, m42 extension tube and blue tak to hold the lens hands free. It eliminated the vignettes


PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another straight from camera, though not free lensing as this used the blue-tak mount.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely. I was hoping you'd put some more up. Thanks jamaeolus.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovely. I was hoping you'd put some more up. Thanks jamaeolus.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a few more. I think it's a remarkable lens considering it's around 90 years old and was designed for black and white photography.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No coatings you'd imagine. It seems to create a bone honesty to those colours. I have that purple Clematis ("Here's a few more..." #1) in my garden. It is exactly that shade. I've become interested in these older lenses myself but I'm a little behind. I'm currently working through how to mount and use them successfully. I said "them", but it's actually only one so far. A 1937 CZ Tessar.


PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tessar's are fine lenses. Is it from an interchangeable mount SLR or a fixed lens camera?


PostPosted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:
Tessar's are fine lenses. Is it from an interchangeable mount SLR or a fixed lens camera?



Little steps for me first. It's from an Exakta VP 'B', so interchangeable mount. A 2.8/7.5cm. I've not worked out how to connect it to my M42/M42 Helicoid yet. It's a 39.5mm thread with a 0.75 pitch. That's next. I've been trying to find an M40 TO M42 step up, and try some plumbers (ptfe) tape to bulk the lens thread up to 40mm, but the step up either doesn't exist or I'm looking in the wrong places. I'll keep looking. It also, in this case, must be reversible as I have some plans for it on the Exakta in the future.


PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm not familiar with that camera. Just so you know 39mm threads are somewhat of a problem. Leica threads (aka LTM) are 39mm but the pitch is not metric IIRC its some weird combo of 26 threads per inch. Paxette are 39mm x 1 metric as are canon thread mount. It is easy to bung threads from one system to the other as they almost fit. This is a very useful chart for lens adaptation aficianados:

http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/misc/mounts-by-register.html


PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jamaeolus wrote:


http://www.graphics.cornell.edu/~westin/misc/mounts-by-register.html



That's an excellent link. Thanks Like 1 .


PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2019 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful results.
I am thinking that this lens would also produce very nice portraits.
Thanks for sharing yours
Tom


PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the compliment. I agree regarding portraits. Its plenty sharp but not too sharp, and the focal length would lend itself to that usage. I am terrible at portraits though...