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Fixing a Domiplan 50mm 2.8 (Warning: many pics)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:15 pm    Post subject: Fixing a Domiplan 50mm 2.8 (Warning: many pics) Reply with quote

This lens was a present of my friend Rafa1981 (thanks, Rafa!) that came with plenty of dirt and oil on the lenses and the diaphragm blades, in such a way that the blades were so sticky that didn't move at all. Even the front plate had some letters partially erased. A nice challenge:



To get to the front lenses, the first step is to unscrew the nameplate:



Then the top barrel and the pressure spring pop out:



The front group can be removed by unscrewing it:



Then the lenses can be disassembled by unscrewing the retainer ring. No fungus, so normal cleaning (Ultrasonic bath and drying with a clean microfiber pad).



Attacking from the bottom side: first step, to unscrew the base retainer:



Three screws fix the mount:



Three more screws fix the diaphragm ensemble:





The sticky blades:



have to be cleaned in Isopropylic alcohol:





Once clean, can be reassembled:

First put the diaphragm base back on the lens:



Then put the blades in sequence with a tweezers:







To see if the blades are placed okay, push the lever that moves them, if some is wrongly placed, all them will jump out Wink



Once in place, put back the diaphragm cover, the mount and the retainer and exercise the lens. If everything is fine, the lens should be now operating properly. During the process I was cleaning the different parts, to remove the dust and grease.

And finally, the cosmetic part, to recover the nameplate labels:



Hope this will be useful to someone else.

Regards.
Jes.


Last edited by Jesito on Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:36 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent tutorial.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inombrable wrote:
Excellent tutorial.


Thanks!. Smile

Jes.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are welcome! Glad to see that you had a goot time fixing it, after all the value was more in the challenge than in the lens itself...


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rafa1981 wrote:
You are welcome! Glad to see that you had a goot time fixing it, after all the value was more in the challenge than in the lens itself...


Yes, you are right Smile
More fun fixing it than using it. Wide open is almost unusable, too soft. Anyway I want to try it at f8 under sunlight.
But my experience with other Exakta Domiplans is that they are good caps for the camera bodies Wink
Anyway I appreciate very much the opportunity to practice, looking forward to being able to fix more complex ones in the future. Smile

Jes.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jes, you must be the first and only person on the planet, and maybe in the entire universe that's fixed a Domiplan...

We salute you... Laughing


PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As ever, a worthy tutorial. Cool


PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob955i wrote:
Jes, you must be the first and only person on the planet, and maybe in the entire universe that's fixed a Domiplan...

We salute you... Laughing


Laughing Laughing Laughing

It has been a nice learning opportunity Wink

Thanks for your comment, Bob! Smile

Jes.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lloydy wrote:
As ever, a worthy tutorial. Cool


Thanks Lloydy!

Jes.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SonicScot wrote:
I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile

Well, if I'd only known! You would have been most welcome to mine, for free. Smile


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
SonicScot wrote:
I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile

Well, if I'd only known! You would have been most welcome to mine, for free. Smile

I'm always going to wonder if yours is a better copy than mine now..... Confused

Rolling Eyes

Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SonicScot wrote:
peterqd wrote:
SonicScot wrote:
I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile

Well, if I'd only known! You would have been most welcome to mine, for free. Smile

I'm always going to wonder if yours is a better copy than mine now..... Confused

Rolling Eyes

Laughing

Give it a little more thought...
Would I be giving it away, to a Scotsman as well, if it was any good? Wink


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
SonicScot wrote:
peterqd wrote:
SonicScot wrote:
I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile

Well, if I'd only known! You would have been most welcome to mine, for free. Smile

I'm always going to wonder if yours is a better copy than mine now..... Confused

Rolling Eyes

Laughing

Give it a little more thought...
Would I be giving it away, to a Scotsman as well, if it was any good? Wink

That bad? Shocked

Wow! I didn't think anyone made lenses that bad!

Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

I've always regretted getting the Domiplan in exchange for a silver M39 Industar-50 back in 1969, but if that doesn't put you off the offer still stands. Smile


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
Laughing

I've always regretted getting the Domiplan in exchange for a silver M39 Industar-50 back in 1969, but if that doesn't put you off the offer still stands. Smile


Since my addiction began only a few short months ago I would be crazy to turn down any mf lens. I need to learn all I can so I can tell a beauty from a beast. Razz
It would also be the first time I've had two identical lenses which I could then compare. I would use the opportunity to create a scientific *cough* comparison test which would prove useful over the years of addiction. Laughing

I would be delighted to accept your offer sir. Very Happy


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SonicScot wrote:
I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile


You're welcome... But don't blame me if things go wrong Wink

Good luck, I look forward for your pictures.

Jes.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
Laughing

I've always regretted getting the Domiplan in exchange for a silver M39 Industar-50 back in 1969, but if that doesn't put you off the offer still stands. Smile



Peter, are you sure your Domiplan has oil and fungus enough to be funny? Wink

Jes.


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesito wrote:
SonicScot wrote:
I've just bought a Domiplan with a "sticky aperture and some fungus" for a few quid.
I wouldn't have thought of buying it if I hadn't seen this thread. It has given me the confidence to try my first repair job.
Many thanks. Smile


You're welcome... But don't blame me if things go wrong Wink

Good luck, I look forward for your pictures.

Jes.

I wouldn't dream of blaming others for my disastrous attempts at restoration. Wink

I'm waiting for the correct tools to arrive before I start, wouldn't want to bodge my first job with the nearest screwdriver. Shocked


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jesito wrote:
peterqd wrote:
Laughing

I've always regretted getting the Domiplan in exchange for a silver M39 Industar-50 back in 1969, but if that doesn't put you off the offer still stands. Smile



Peter, are you sure your Domiplan has oil and fungus enough to be funny? Wink

Jes.

No fungus, but plenty of dust. As for oil, probably not enough - the aperture blades still open and close OK, but you have to bang the lens down hard on the bench first! Smile


PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd wrote:
No fungus, but plenty of dust. As for oil, probably not enough - the aperture blades still open and close OK, but you have to bang the lens down hard on the bench first! Smile

Shocked


Laughing I like a challenge Wink


PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SonicScot wrote:
peterqd wrote:
No fungus, but plenty of dust. As for oil, probably not enough - the aperture blades still open and close OK, but you have to bang the lens down hard on the bench first! Smile

Shocked


Laughing I like a challenge Wink


Wait until you try to get a decent image out of the thing - now THAT'S a challenge... Laughing


PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob955i wrote:
SonicScot wrote:
peterqd wrote:
No fungus, but plenty of dust. As for oil, probably not enough - the aperture blades still open and close OK, but you have to bang the lens down hard on the bench first! Smile

Shocked


Laughing I like a challenge Wink


Wait until you try to get a decent image out of the thing - now THAT'S a challenge... Laughing

I accept your challenge Bob Laughing


PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi!
I recently got my Domiplan, and there is some problem with it: the aperture blades are stuck at wide open, even if I press the small thing on the back of the lenses. Okay, actually there are some small change, if I press this button; the aperture blades moves a little bit, and that's all.
So I started to find some solution to this problem (the previous owner is a generous gentleman, he said he'll buy the lenses back, if I want my money, or he'll find another kind of lenses for that price/category for me - but if I could fix it, why wouldn't I?), and I found this topic. The tutorial is great, but I stuck at the beginning.
I dont't want to disassembly the whole lenses, but only the rear front of it, to reach and if I'm able, fix the aperture blades. Can I do this without the disassembly of the front piece? If I can, then how the hell can I remove the metal piece, wich covers up the screwes?
I think to this one:


If anyone can help, I'll be really appreciative.

P.s.: sorry for my english, I'm hungarian. Smile


PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peter89x wrote:
Hi!
I recently got my Domiplan, and there is some problem with it: the aperture blades are stuck at wide open, even if I press the small thing on the back of the lenses. Okay, actually there are some small change, if I press this button; the aperture blades moves a little bit, and that's all.
So I started to find some solution to this problem (the previous owner is a generous gentleman, he said he'll buy the lenses back, if I want my money, or he'll find another kind of lenses for that price/category for me - but if I could fix it, why wouldn't I?), and I found this topic. The tutorial is great, but I stuck at the beginning.
I dont't want to disassembly the whole lenses, but only the rear front of it, to reach and if I'm able, fix the aperture blades. Can I do this without the disassembly of the front piece? If I can, then how the hell can I remove the metal piece, wich covers up the screwes?
I think to this one:


If anyone can help, I'll be really appreciative.

P.s.: sorry for my english, I'm hungarian. Smile


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