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 Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 9:22 am Post subject: First test shots Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2 |
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The Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2 is a sort of a mystery. Opinions on its performance vary widely. Bjorn Rorslett says it sucks. Ken Rockwell and Ken AKA The Angry Photographer say it is great. Among amateurs you find the same devidedness. People complain about low resolution, low contrast, dim colors etc. I did a first test in my kitchen, all pictures handheld with a flash bouncing off the ceiling.
Wide open:
At first glance this doesn't look bad to me. Quite a bit of contrast and quite vivid colors.
Lets look at a 100% crop, wide open:
Okay, there is a bit of glow visible from this high contrast subject, but not much. In a portrait this would be even less evident. Resolution seems really good to me. Keep in mind this is a 42mp+ sensor (Sony A7RII).
Lets see how it performs @ f/2.8:
Looks good to me. The picture improved when stopped down a little. Good contrast, saturated colors. The bouncing flashlight isn't the prettiest, but that's not the lens.
Let's take a look at the 100% crop, @ f/2.8:
Looks like pixel filling sharpness @f/2.8 on a 42+ mp sensor to me. So I guess the mystery remains? Are there a lot of bad copies around? It could be. But for me the 85mm f/2 ai is a keeper: solid optical performance, great build quality and very compact size make it a winner for me. |
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bwfcnottingham wrote:
Looks good to me caspert79
I would love to see some portraits with it as 85mm is a good choice for headshots and portrait.
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
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Looks good to me caspert79
I would love to see some portraits with it as 85mm is a good choice for headshots and portrait.
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Once I find the time I will do that. |
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
Okay, I found a minute to make a snapshot of my youngest son.
Wide open, no post processing:
100% crop:
Good enough for me! |
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papasito wrote:
Well done!!
Nice. Good contrast for portraits, sharp, yes. |
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The complaints seem to center around a "greyness" to the images. I've seen this sometimes. In the shots I've taken it seems like there's usually some desaturation in the out-of-focus areas. Other shots with this lens seem unpleasantly grey overall, but I've taken many that don't seem that way and have excellent saturation.
It's a bit of a mystery. I've been casually thinking about it and testing it for about a year and a half, and I don't have an answer.
I can say for certain that it's extremely compact and light for an 85, and it's extremely sharp as well. |
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Wondering if positive review results use AI version with 255° focus throw and negative reviews use AI-S version with 175° focus throw, or vice versa? Both with 5/5 optics.
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
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Wondering if positive review results use AI version with 255° focus throw and negative reviews use AI-S version with 175° focus throw, or vice versa? Both with 5/5 optics. |
You think it has to do with focusing issues? It could also be that some of these lenses got issues over time. It would be interesting to know if complaints come mostly from ai-s users. I usually try to find the ai version of Nikkors, because the build quality tends to be a bit tougher. |
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visualopsins wrote:
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| visualopsins wrote: |
Wondering if positive review results use AI version with 255° focus throw and negative reviews use AI-S version with 175° focus throw, or vice versa? Both with 5/5 optics. |
You think it has to do with focusing issues? It could also be that some of these lenses got issues over time. It would be interesting to know if complaints come mostly from ai-s users. I usually try to find the ai version of Nikkors, because the build quality tends to be a bit tougher. |
Also possible is different optics calculations of 5/5 for each lens.
Thanks for tip about AI/AI-S build quality!
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stevemark wrote:
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Okay, I found a minute to make a snapshot of my youngest son.
100% crop:
Good enough for me! |
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The complaints seem to center around a "greyness" to the images. I've seen this sometimes.
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It's a bit of a mystery.
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I can say for certain that it's ... extremely sharp as well. |
The Ai/AiS 2/85mm is one of the few "common" 85mm lenses I've never been able to test personally. I know the varying opinions, and your image may well explain them: The 100% looks very soft, but with lots of detail - not unlike the Minolta 2.8/85mm Soft Focus used with very little "softening". Stopping down probably eliminates the softness. These properties would be ideal for a portrait lens (especially considering that "Soft focus lenses" were en vogue aroud 1980, and that Nikon didn't have a real soft focus lens back then), but not always welcome for other subjects.
Looking at this image and its 100% crop it is obvious that e. g. the Minolta MD 2/85mm would behave quite differently: The MD 2/85mm has a high contrast even at f2, and it is an ideal landscape lens. For portraits, Minolta had the MD 2.8/85mm SoftFocus.
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caspert79
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caspert79 wrote:
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Okay, I found a minute to make a snapshot of my youngest son.
100% crop:
Good enough for me! |
| KEO wrote: |
The complaints seem to center around a "greyness" to the images. I've seen this sometimes.
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It's a bit of a mystery.
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I can say for certain that it's ... extremely sharp as well. |
The Ai/AiS 2/85mm is one of the few "common" 85mm lenses I've never been able to test personally. I know the varying opinions, and your image may well explain them: The 100% looks very soft, but with lots of detail - not unlike the Minolta 2.8/85mm Soft Focus used with very little "softening". Stopping down probably eliminates the softness. These properties would be ideal for a portrait lens (especially considering that "Soft focus lenses" were en vogue aroud 1980, and that Nikon didn't have a real soft focus lens back then), but not always welcome for other subjects.
Looking at this image and its 100% crop it is obvious that e. g. the Minolta MD 2/85mm would behave quite differently: The MD 2/85mm has a high contrast even at f2, and it is an ideal landscape lens. For portraits, Minolta had the MD 2.8/85mm SoftFocus.
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Sounds plausible. |
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vivaldibow wrote:
Thanks for showing the sample photos. I got one but never got a chance to test it. Yes, there are inconsistant opinons on the internet regarding this lens. Someday I'll need to compare it with Nikon 85mm/1.8 lens. |
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fiftyonepointsix wrote:
No mystery to us that worked in camera shops when this lens was new.
Nikkor 85/2 Ais, wide-open on the Nikon Df.
At F2.8,
This lens was a favorite Portrait lens for photographers when new. It had a reputation for being softer than the Planar Formula Nikkor 105/2.5, which some complained was too sharp for portraits. The 85/2, 105/2.5, 135/2.8, and 200/4 Planar formula lenses are all good.
I also have the last version Nikkor 85/1.8 factory Ai converted. About the size of the 55/1.2, Bokeh is more harsh. Great lens- but my opinion, the 85/2 is better for portraits. |
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Ultrapix wrote:
It's been my tool for many years when I was a young pro, but I have to say that I never really loved it (on film of course). I always felt like something was missing on the picture, while other Nikkors proved to be plenty satisfaying.
Then I moved to Leica, and well, their 90 mm are all another world. |
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sergtum wrote:
nice lens |
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caspert79
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| Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:29 am Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
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No mystery to us that worked in camera shops when this lens was new.
Nikkor 85/2 Ais, wide-open on the Nikon Df.
At F2.8,
This lens was a favorite Portrait lens for photographers when new. It had a reputation for being softer than the Planar Formula Nikkor 105/2.5, which some complained was too sharp for portraits. The 85/2, 105/2.5, 135/2.8, and 200/4 Planar formula lenses are all good.
I also have the last version Nikkor 85/1.8 factory Ai converted. About the size of the 55/1.2, Bokeh is more harsh. Great lens- but my opinion, the 85/2 is better for portraits. |
Nice shots, I like the bokeh! |
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KEO
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KEO wrote:
FWIW, my copy is AiS. Condition is not a factor: it's like brand new. |
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caspert79
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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caspert79 wrote:
Stopped down to f/2.8:
Check full size image here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55691955@N05/50821501552/in/album-72157717825390242/
I'm very pleased with this lens. |
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Pancolart wrote:
Samples look perfect for portrait work. I feel sad to sold it without really give it proper try.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: First test shots Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2 |
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visualopsins wrote:
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The Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2 is a sort of a mystery. Opinions on its performance vary widely. Bjorn Rorslett says it sucks. Ken Rockwell and Ken AKA The Angry Photographer say it is great. Among amateurs you find the same devidedness. People complain about low resolution, low contrast, dim colors etc. I did a first test in my kitchen, all pictures handheld with a flash bouncing off the ceiling.
Wide open:
At first glance this doesn't look bad to me. Quite a bit of contrast and quite vivid colors.
Lets look at a 100% crop, wide open:
Okay, there is a bit of glow visible from this high contrast subject, but not much. In a portrait this would be even less evident. Resolution seems really good to me. Keep in mind this is a 42mp+ sensor (Sony A7RII).
Lets see how it performs @ f/2.8:
Looks good to me. The picture improved when stopped down a little. Good contrast, saturated colors. The bouncing flashlight isn't the prettiest, but that's not the lens.
Let's take a look at the 100% crop, @ f/2.8:
Looks like pixel filling sharpness @f/2.8 on a 42+ mp sensor to me. So I guess the mystery remains? Are there a lot of bad copies around? It could be. But for me the 85mm f/2 ai is a keeper: solid optical performance, great build quality and very compact size make it a winner for me. |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: First test shots Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2 |
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caspert79 wrote:
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| caspert79 wrote: |
The Nikkor Ai 85mm f/2 is a sort of a mystery. Opinions on its performance vary widely. Bjorn Rorslett says it sucks. Ken Rockwell and Ken AKA The Angry Photographer say it is great. Among amateurs you find the same devidedness. People complain about low resolution, low contrast, dim colors etc. I did a first test in my kitchen, all pictures handheld with a flash bouncing off the ceiling.
Wide open:
At first glance this doesn't look bad to me. Quite a bit of contrast and quite vivid colors.
Lets look at a 100% crop, wide open:
Okay, there is a bit of glow visible from this high contrast subject, but not much. In a portrait this would be even less evident. Resolution seems really good to me. Keep in mind this is a 42mp+ sensor (Sony A7RII).
Lets see how it performs @ f/2.8:
Looks good to me. The picture improved when stopped down a little. Good contrast, saturated colors. The bouncing flashlight isn't the prettiest, but that's not the lens.
Let's take a look at the 100% crop, @ f/2.8:
Looks like pixel filling sharpness @f/2.8 on a 42+ mp sensor to me. So I guess the mystery remains? Are there a lot of bad copies around? It could be. But for me the 85mm f/2 ai is a keeper: solid optical performance, great build quality and very compact size make it a winner for me. |
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hey folks when you click quote, it really only takes a second to highlight and delete the img bbcode and avoid all the superfluously duplicated pics.. just a suggestion 
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Caspert79, the image of your youngest son is lovely, and shows what your lens is capable of. I owned an 85mm f2 for a short while but never found a big reason to reach for it rather than my f1.8 or a 105mm. It seemed like a fine lens.
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| hey folks when you click quote, it really only takes a second to highlight and delete the img bbcode and avoid all the superfluously duplicated pics.. just a suggestion |
+9999999999!!!!!
Makes for difficult reading...
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Cameras: Sony ILCE-7RM2, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
Lenses:
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200, Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300, Macro-Takumar 1:4/50, Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm, Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element), Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17, Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500, Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100, Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100, SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
M42 Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
Contax Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 28-70mm F3.5-4.5
Pentax K-mount SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto (Kiron)
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