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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:46 am Post subject: First Foray into High Key |
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David wrote:
I tried (by accident, I admit) some high key photography this weekend. Pentax H3V, Kodak Vision 3 250D (developed in D-76, as described below.) The lenses and aperture settings are listed by the image. These were an accident, but I want to know if these are on track as suitable high key subjects and how they could be improved.
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1- I did a couple versions of this. This was the lowest-contrast and I felt the better of the two.
2- When I edited these, I liked the frame on this one (which I usually don't) and felt it lacked something left naked. I'm not married to that idea.
3- My least favorite of the images, but also the most starkly different, so I wanted to include it to provide a different chance for commentary.
All of these were scanned in no-thumbnail mode because the scanner couldn't detect them when I asked for a thumbnail. I edited the first to draw out the tree's details a bit, but basically left the others alone (no auto contrast, just an unsharp mask at 15%, 20 pixel radius, which suitably removes modest softness without overdoing it.)
For the film, I develop my 250 D (and other color motion picture stock) in D-76. After the initial minute-long rotation, I place the developing can (this works best with metal cans) under a slow hot (no mixing it with cold) water stream between agitations for the following 3 minutes. The hot water flow is about a pencil's width at the spigot. The hot water heats up the developer about 8 or 10 degrees. After 8-9 minutes of total developing time, the film's typically got pretty good tones and contrast. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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ForenSeil
Joined: 15 Apr 2011 Posts: 2726 Location: Kiel, Germany.
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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ForenSeil wrote:
#1 would win a lot from PP
Could you upload it in high resolution?
I personally don't like the other two _________________ I'm not a collector, I'm a tester
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Most wanted: Samyang 24/1.4, Samyang 35/1.4, Nikon 200/2 ED
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tobbsman
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 2578 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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tobbsman wrote:
this is awesome stuff which really hits my taste !
love the compositions, also when they seem weird at first glance.
at second glace it seems all in balance
my fave is #2 !
I am not sure yet if I like the tiny little vignette
Cheers
Tobias _________________ Camera Pentax K10D, K20D, Super A
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
I don't know anything about "high key" but I do like the 2nd one the most, and the first if there was a little more detail in the tree....I say this just how I see it not from a technical point of view.I think this style is something worth pursuing and mastering.
The first one just says to me "Bonsai tree" _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
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Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Thank you for your comments! I'm trying to expand my work so it's not all just Panoramio-type images.
@, Forenseil, I'll try and get the high-res uploaded somewhere. Maybe Flickr?
@Tobias, I can try it without the border. The black frame is unexposed negative. I had to scan this as part of the negative instead of automatically as a thumbnail due to how thick the negative is. It's an easy mod I'll do tonight to get try it out without a border.
@Mo, The original scan actually had a lot less detail in the tree. During post processing I copied the image as a second layer and dropped the gamma to about 30. Then I used a brush eraser to remove most everything except the tree (the sky got dark and speckled from the exposure change.) I set the tree layer's transparency to 60% or thereabouts and the detail in the bark came out in much greater relief than it had. _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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David
Joined: 13 Apr 2011 Posts: 1869 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:00 am Post subject: |
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David wrote:
Ask and ye shall receive:
And the high-res tree:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/david754/7898149412/in/photostream _________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/hancockDavidM |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:55 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
You certainly can see the details in the High res image!..... It does look a lot better.Thanks for taking the time to post the link. _________________ Moira, Moderator
Fuji XE-1,Pentax K-01,Panasonic G1,Panasonic G5,Pentax MX
Ricoh Singlex TLS,KR-5,KR-5Super,XR-10
Lenses
Auto Rikenon's 55/1.4, 1.8, 2.8... 50/1.7 Takumar 2/58 Preset Takumar 2.8/105 Auto Takumar 2.2/55, 3.5/35 Super Takumar 1.8/55...Macro Takumar F4/50... CZJ Biotar ALU M42 2/58 CZJ Tessar ALU M42 2.8/50
CZJ DDR Flektogon Zebra M42 2.8/35 CZJ Pancolar M42 2/50 CZJ Pancolar Exakta 2/50
Auto Mamiya/Sekor 1.8/55 ...Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 2.8/50 Auto Mamiya/Sekor 200/3.5 Tamron SP500/8 Tamron SP350/5.6 Tamron SP90/2.5
Primoplan 1.9/58 Primagon 4.5/35 Telemegor 5.5/150 Angenieux 3.5/28 Angenieux 3,5/135 Y 2
Canon FL 58/1.2,Canon FL85/1.8,Canon FL 100/3.5,Canon SSC 2.8/100 ,Konica AR 100/2.8, Nikkor P 105/2.5
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