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Katastrofo
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Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:28 pm Post subject: Exakta mount Flektogon test |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Shot this morning, weather is rainy and overcast but wanted to try this lens,
anyway. Using expired Memories 200 film, Exakta 500 with 2.8/35 Flektogon:
shot at ISO 160, some wind issues in 1 and 3.
First three shots were wide open and the chain was either f4 or f5.6.
Epson 4490 scans |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:04 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
A bit dreamy in my opinion, perhaps even nicer than if tack sharp. What is your impression ? _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
I think dreamy is a nice way to put it. This lens almost reminds me
of a Trioplan. I'll have to try it on sunnier days where I can stop down more.
A few SEP conversions:
Selected high structure in the first which really brought out the grain, both
in the wood and in the film.
I think I paid somewhere between $30 to $40 for this including shipping,
pretty cheap. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:55 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
That was a bargain! I think these are better than Trioplan pictures. _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
This lens would probably do well on m4/3 camera, will try faster film next
time. I'll post a pic of the lens tomorrow as it is different than the zebra
M42 Flek I have. |
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fish4570
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 4514 Location: At the confluence of the Locust Fork of the Warrior River and Black Creek, Alabama
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:22 am Post subject: |
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fish4570 wrote:
I like very much the top and bottom pics. Bokeh is very similar to what I get with my Oreston 50/1.8. _________________ Paul
I chase Light
http://blackcreekjournal.blogspot.com/ |
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:57 am Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
wooow... very nice. Looks different otherwise Flek design is apparent in that pics. Bit softer that somebody get used. For me too but I like it. Like that smooth bokeh and table pics the most. Can't decide for colour or bw. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Paul and Spleenone, thanks for your comments. Here are some quick and
dirty (literally, since I forgot to clean the lens) of the Flek, which is an AUS
Jena:
As indicated in the last shot, this Flek close-focuses to 0.65 feet, my M42
CZJ Flek close-focuses to 0.7 feet. |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
First one what I seen labeled with AUS Jena ! Congrats!! Fairly uncommon finish and AUS Jena! _________________ -------------------------------
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Attila wrote: |
First one what I seen labeled with AUS Jena ! Congrats!! Fairly uncommon finish and AUS Jena! |
What's the difference in AUS Jena vs CZJ? |
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Attila
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
AUS Jena means sold on western market, first class.
Two factories Jena and Oberkochen did made an awful fight who is owner of Carl Zeiss Jena brand. Jena factory can sold lenses only with Aus Jena after when they are lost fight at western curt. _________________ -------------------------------
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peterqd
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 7448 Location: near High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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peterqd wrote:
Katastrofo wrote: |
I think dreamy is a nice way to put it. This lens almost reminds me of a Trioplan. I'll have to try it on sunnier days where I can stop down more. |
What's the date of this lens - 50s/60s? When I was a young lad in the 50s, before Japanese quality came on the market, this was one of the very best lenses, when wide angles for 35mm were in their early days and f2.8 was very fast indeed. I remember an old uncle telling me that lenses should only be opened up wider than midway if the light demanded it, and only after running out of slower shutter speeds. In other words, as a last resort. So I think we shouldn't expect too much from this old lens wide open. You'll probably be much more pleased with it at F5.6 or f8, Bill, and with today's faster films there's even less need to use wide apertures. _________________ Peter - Moderator |
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symphonic
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 550 Location: SE Europe, Croatia
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
I agree with others, these are really great shots. I love the grain very much, images like these make me think about trying film one day. _________________ Toni,
EOS 450D
CZJ Sonnar 135/3.5 MC | Pancolar 50/1.8 MC
Contax Planar 50/1.4 AEJ | Contax Sonnar 135/2.8 AEJ
Yashica ML 28/2.8 | Zuiko 28/3.5
Vivitar Series1 105/2.5 OM
AF: Tokina 12-24 |
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3215 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Great shots Bill!
I'm with the table though. |
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Katastrofo
Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 10405 Location: USA
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Peter, Toni, and Sorin, thanks for your comments!
Peter, yes, will try faster film so I can stop down more. I find this lens most
encouraging, and would probably do well as a portrait lens.
Toni, looking forward to your film efforts when you make the jump!
Sorin, some bodacious bokeh in the table shot, and I was wrong about the
chain shot, it was either wide open or f4 at most. |
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Orio
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Very sweet Aus Jena lens, Bill. I always liked better the character of the 2.8/35 Flek over the 2.4/35, don't know why.
The chain photo is my favourite, especially in B&W. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:27 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Thanks, Orio, the BW chain shot is my fave of the set. For some reason it
looks more 3D, especially looking at my monitor from 4-5 feet away.
It seems that being AUS Jena *and* Exakta mount was the reason this
lens went for so cheap, I'm happy.
Attila, forgot, but thanks for the info on AUS Jena! |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:56 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
peterqd wrote: |
Katastrofo wrote: |
I think dreamy is a nice way to put it. This lens almost reminds me of a Trioplan. I'll have to try it on sunnier days where I can stop down more. |
What's the date of this lens - 50s/60s? When I was a young lad in the 50s, before Japanese quality came on the market, this was one of the very best lenses, when wide angles for 35mm were in their early days and f2.8 was very fast indeed. I remember an old uncle telling me that lenses should only be opened up wider than midway if the light demanded it, and only after running out of slower shutter speeds. In other words, as a last resort. So I think we shouldn't expect too much from this old lens wide open. You'll probably be much more pleased with it at F5.6 or f8, Bill, and with today's faster films there's even less need to use wide apertures. |
Peter, it's been very sunny lately so instead of fast film I used my favorite
Ferrania 100, this is at f5.6 using the Exakta 500 with the 2.8/35 Flek:
Ferrania also converts well in Silver Efex Pro:
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spleenone
Joined: 26 Dec 2009 Posts: 1130 Location: Slovakia
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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spleenone wrote:
What a nice bw conversion. _________________ Shoot on analog mainly with
Nikkor glass
then Pentacon6TL for squares
and Fujica GL690 in case of 6x9
Carpe diem! |
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Katastrofo
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Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
spleenone wrote: |
What a nice bw conversion. |
Spleenone, appreciate your comment, really happy with this lens.
one more, same camera/lens/Ferrania 100 focus is not as good in this one:
Having the roof trim, gables, and wrought iron painted a different color at
my house. |
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