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savale
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 Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject: Enna München Macro-Ennalyt 3.5/35mm (pics & test) |
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savale wrote:
I heard not too many good stories of this lens. Ofcourse it's not very fast, but I am happy with the image quality
the lens (very mint) came in today:
wide open full image test on my 5d mark2. (without adapter yet) Sorry for the iso noise
http://savale.mine.nu/_MG_4864.jpg
pretty sharp and nice bokeh I think.
Anyone got more info on this lens?
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caspert79 wrote:
The link doesn't work here. |
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savale
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savale wrote:
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sorry don't know what's wrong. In preview it works, but not when submitted. sorry
*fixed now I think* |
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savale
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savale wrote:
any more tests I should do to know if it's a keeper?  I don't have the m42 adapter yet so it's hard to walk around with it now.  |
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Pancolart wrote:
Due to plastic chassis these Enna lenses are prone to different types of removable haze. They are easily serviceable. But do not judge optical performace when your sample isn't clean. If clean all 28mm and 35mm give really good performance (your test shot seems nice BTW). Better then most 20 years younger Korean made.
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savale
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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savale wrote:
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| Due to plastic chassis these Enna lenses are prone to different types of removable haze. They are easily serviceable. But do not judge optical performace when your sample isn't clean. If clean all 28mm and 35mm give really good performance (your test shot seems nice BTW). Better then most 20 years younger Korean made. |
plastic chasis? you mean the housing of the lens? mine is heavy metal I am also very happy with it's sharpness. Hope I get my adapter soon so I can really play with it. |
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blende8 wrote:
What is Macro about it? Ho close does it focus?
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savale
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savale wrote:
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| What is Macro about it? Ho close does it focus? |
not going to use it as a macro but if I remember it right: closest is 23cm as I am right. I can check it later. But at 35 that's not really macro haha |
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Pancolart wrote:
Sorry chassis wrong word i mean housing yes, though most of Enna that have plastic housing have plastic interior too.
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savale
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savale wrote:
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| Sorry chassis wrong word i mean housing yes, though most of Enna that have plastic housing have plastic interior too. |
Ok I think I am lucky I am not that into manual focus and old lenses yet, but I am really gettting into it. |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Brilliant, I now know the maker of Wallace Heaton lenses! I had the 35/3.5 and a 300/5.6, made in West Germany, and they look exactly the same
They were crap, but at least I know who made them now 
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estudleon wrote:
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Brilliant, I now know the maker of Wallace Heaton lenses! I had the 35/3.5 and a 300/5.6, made in West Germany, and they look exactly the same
They were crap, but at least I know who made them now |
The enna 3,5/35 lens is a crap one?
Hummm......are you sure. Not the best, of course, but crap?
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savale
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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savale wrote:
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Brilliant, I now know the maker of Wallace Heaton lenses! I had the 35/3.5 and a 300/5.6, made in West Germany, and they look exactly the same
They were crap, but at least I know who made them now |
haha  Maybe I've other standards, but look at the sample pic I made... seems to performe pretty good on my 5d2 |
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Bruce wrote:
That jpg sample was slow, but the blueridge guitar neck look awesome for a crap lens?
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Pancolart wrote:
Housing crappy Hall of fame, optics inside above average.
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Oops, my apologies, I wasn't commenting on the example photo here (missed it somehow, but the guitar looks good). My copy was tested as a wideangle, and it wasn't special to be honest...quite soft. What macro ratio does the lens go to? Mine wasn't marked as macro, but clearly had a close focus capability.
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my_photography wrote:
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| Housing crappy Hall of fame,... |
Sounds like the one I have. It is the lightest lens I have ever owned.
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estudleon wrote:
I'm thinking about and don't remember a crappy lens 3,5/35 mm made after middle of 60's.
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Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
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Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
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savale wrote:
the housing is heavy. everything is made of metal. it's not really macro I think:
closest focus ~ 25cm
optic quality is pretty good isn;t it? I can compare since I have no other primes in that range... but compared to my 17-40 F4.0 L canon it's sharper |
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Pancolart wrote:
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the housing is heavy. everything is made of metal. it's not really macro I think:
closest focus ~ 25cm
optic quality is pretty good isn;t it? I can compare since I have no other primes in that range... but compared to my 17-40 F4.0 L canon it's sharper |
Huh, that puzzles me. On your photos it certainly seems made from metal. Try to light a bit of fire underneath and see what happens . Anyway i have one like yours plastic as plastic can be.
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savale
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 8:46 am Post subject: |
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savale wrote:
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the housing is heavy. everything is made of metal. it's not really macro I think:
closest focus ~ 25cm
optic quality is pretty good isn;t it? I can compare since I have no other primes in that range... but compared to my 17-40 F4.0 L canon it's sharper |
Huh, that puzzles me. On your photos it certainly seems made from metal. Try to light a bit of fire underneath and see what happens . Anyway i have one like yours plastic as plastic can be. |
I am sure it's metal because it's cold / heavy and sounds like it :') Maybe there have been different revisions? |
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kds315* wrote:
I was never impressed by these later "plastic fantastic" versions. The earlier full metal zebra ones are much. much better.
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estudleon wrote:
The plastic version didn't be destined to impress us, only to reduce costs.
Not for our benefit, for maker profit.
Rino.
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Helios 44-3
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Misc. : jupiter 9
Stuff used:
A) SRL
Alpa 10 D - kern macro Switar 1,9/50 -black, Kilffit apochromat 2/100.
Asahi pentax spotmatic super takumar 1,4/50
Contaflex super B tessar 2,8/50 Pro-tessar 115
Leica R3 electronic summicron 2/50 elmarit 2,8/35
Konica Autoreflex 3 (2 black and chrome one), TC, T4. 2,8/24, 3,5/28 not MC and MC, 1,8/40, 1,4/50, 1,7/50 MC and not MC, 1,8/85, 3,2/135, 3,5/135, 4/200
Minolta XG9 2,8/35, 2/45, 3,5/135
Nikkormat FTn 1,4/50, 2,8/135
Fujica ST 801, 605, 705n. 3,5/19, 1,4/50, 1,8/55, 4/85, 3,5/135.
Praktica MTL 5 and a lot of M42 lenses.
Voigtlander. Bessamatic m, bessamatix de luxe, bessamatic cs, ultramatic and ultramatic cs.
Skoparex 3,5/35, skopagon 2/40, skopar 2,8/50, skopar X 2,8/50, super lanthar (out of catalogue) 2,8/50, dinarex 3,4/90, dinarex 4,8/100, super dinarex 4/135, super dinarex 4/200, zoomar 2,8/36-83, portrait lens 0, 1 and 2. Curtagon 4/28 and 2,8/35
Canon AV1, 1,8/50
Rolleiflex SL35 and SL35 E. 2,8/35 angulon, 2,8/35 distagon, 1,4/55 rolleinar, 1,8/50 planar, 4/135 tessar, 2,8/135 rolleinar, x2 rollei, M42 to rollei adap.
Etc.
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Voightlander Vito, vitomatic I, Vito C, etc.
Leica M. M2, M3 (d.s.) and M4. Schenider 3,4/21, 2/35 summaron 2,8/35 (with eyes). Summicron 2/35 (8 elements with eyes), 2/35 chrome, 2/35 black, 1,4/35 pre asph and aspheric - old -, 2/40 summicron, 2,8/50 elmar, 2/50 7 elements, 2/50 DR, 2/50 - minolta version, 1,4/50 summilux 1966 version, 1,4/75 summilux, 2/90 large version, 2/90 reduced version of 1987, 2,8/90 elmarit large version, 4/135 elmar. |
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bhargav wrote:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread but how much would these be worth? I mean an earlier metal body one with a good optical and aperture condition but heavy focus? |
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D1N0 wrote:
I just got one today. Plastic.. I am pretty sure the front element isn't supposed to be concave
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