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kissel
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 35 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:30 pm Post subject: EBC Fujinon 135/3.5 - a real treasure |
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kissel wrote:
I acquired this beautiful lens in December 2008 for mere 25$, and ever since then I practically fell in love with it.
First of all, it's very compact and light, when compared to other rivals, such as Jupiter-11 or Jupiter-37. It doesn't suffer from the flare as much as Russian Sonnars and even few Japanese lenses I've had in the past (Tamron Adaptamatic 135/2.8, Sears 135/2.8 ). The diaphragm is not as good as even that of Jupiter-11 - it features only 6 blades, and at f/8 setting you will have hexagonal bokeh I can't imagine though why one will have to stop down that much with the portrait lens
The lens is sharp wide open, but contrast is not as good as on f/5.6 setting. It's not a big deal with digital images though - you can adjust contrast easily, anyway.
The filter thread is 49mm. I use a hood from Jupiter-11 via step-down 52-49mm ring, and it works just fine.
Samples (click for the higher resolution images)
wide open
f/5.6
_________________ Nikon D600, Tamron 20-40/2,7-3.5, Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6, Nikkor 85/1.4D, 50/1.8G, AF-I 300/2.8
Panasonic GX7+14/2.5+14-42(II)+45-150.
M42: EBC Fujinon 50/1.4, EBC Fujinon-SW 24/2.8, EBC Fujinon 135/3.5, EBC Fujinon 75-150/4.5, MC Volna-9 (50/2.8, macro)
Fujinon x-Mount: Fujica AX-5, EBC x-Fujinon (Porst) 50/1.2, EBC Fujinon-T 135/3.5, EBC X-FUJINON-Z 35-70MM F2.8-3.7 DM |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57850 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Wow! Many thanks for sharing! _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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poilu
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 10471 Location: Greece
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
look indeed a interesting lens, nice samples! _________________ T* |
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symphonic
Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 550 Location: SE Europe, Croatia
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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symphonic wrote:
thanks for sharing, it looks great |
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Olivier
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Posts: 5076 Location: France
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Olivier wrote:
Thanks Kissel !
Would you have a pic of the lens ? _________________ Olivier - Moderator
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kissel
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 35 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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kissel wrote:
Olivier wrote: |
Thanks Kissel !
Would you have a pic of the lens ? |
I sure will, but in 2 weeks only - i don't have a camera body right now. _________________ Nikon D600, Tamron 20-40/2,7-3.5, Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6, Nikkor 85/1.4D, 50/1.8G, AF-I 300/2.8
Panasonic GX7+14/2.5+14-42(II)+45-150.
M42: EBC Fujinon 50/1.4, EBC Fujinon-SW 24/2.8, EBC Fujinon 135/3.5, EBC Fujinon 75-150/4.5, MC Volna-9 (50/2.8, macro)
Fujinon x-Mount: Fujica AX-5, EBC x-Fujinon (Porst) 50/1.2, EBC Fujinon-T 135/3.5, EBC X-FUJINON-Z 35-70MM F2.8-3.7 DM |
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revers
Joined: 13 May 2010 Posts: 574 Location: In the country just north of Toronto Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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revers wrote:
Nice images. I like the first one best - Elder flower head I think. _________________ Ron
Olympus OM-D E-M5, 14-42 & 45/1.8.
Panasonic G1, GF1, 14-45, 45-200 & various legacy lenses.
Canon S5, Sony 1.7 Tele-converter & Raynox DCR 150 Macro converter. |
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torbod
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 379 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:38 am Post subject: |
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torbod wrote:
Indeed a great lens. Bokeh like the CZJ sonnar. Contrast and sharpness is very good from 5.6. My copy is a little bit duller than the CZJ 135 3.5 wide open, but after that quite equal.
The Fujinon has a very nice mechanics and the focus ring runs soooo smoothly, much better than the CZJ. The aperture is quite round even though it only has 6 blades. The close focusing distance is however a little bit long.
Happy shooting
/T _________________
For Sale or Trade: Pick from the list below.
Manual Lenses: CV 15 4.5 | MIR-20H 20 3.5 | Elmarit-R 28 2.8 | Flektogon MC 35 2.4 | S-M-C Tak 50 1.4 | Rollei 50 1.8 HFT | Helios 44-3 MC 58 2 | MC ROKKOR-X 58 1.2 | MacroPlanar 60 2.8 | Vega-12b 90 2.8 | Tamron 52B 90 2.5 | CZJ 135 3.5 | Jupiter-21A 200 4 | Tair-3s 300 4.5 | KOHBEPTEP K-1 | Takumar x2 |
Camera: Sony Nex 5N |
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Kram
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1344 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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Kram wrote:
Wow, nice lens! Thanks for posting the samples.
Did you have to modify the lens (grind the nub) to fit M42? I just bought my first Fujinon (EBC 28/3.5) and awaiting it's arrival. |
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torbod
Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 379 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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torbod wrote:
Kram wrote: |
Wow, nice lens! Thanks for posting the samples.
Did you have to modify the lens (grind the nub) to fit M42? I just bought my first Fujinon (EBC 28/3.5) and awaiting it's arrival. |
I had to do that. But it was easy.
This lens can produce some really sweet bokeh, although I have no good sample on my disk now, just something like this @ f5.6
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For Sale or Trade: Pick from the list below.
Manual Lenses: CV 15 4.5 | MIR-20H 20 3.5 | Elmarit-R 28 2.8 | Flektogon MC 35 2.4 | S-M-C Tak 50 1.4 | Rollei 50 1.8 HFT | Helios 44-3 MC 58 2 | MC ROKKOR-X 58 1.2 | MacroPlanar 60 2.8 | Vega-12b 90 2.8 | Tamron 52B 90 2.5 | CZJ 135 3.5 | Jupiter-21A 200 4 | Tair-3s 300 4.5 | KOHBEPTEP K-1 | Takumar x2 |
Camera: Sony Nex 5N |
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martinsmith99
Joined: 31 Aug 2008 Posts: 6943 Location: S Glos, UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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martinsmith99 wrote:
The 2 pigeons is a great capture. _________________ Casual attendance these days |
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Dr.AK
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 122 Location: Bedburg, NRW, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Dr.AK wrote:
Looks like a fun lens _________________ Check out my Flickr |
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kissel
Joined: 17 Mar 2009 Posts: 35 Location: Ukraine
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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kissel wrote:
As promised - the actual lens
I use it with the Jupiter-9 metal hood via 49-52 step-down ring, and it works perfectly. _________________ Nikon D600, Tamron 20-40/2,7-3.5, Sigma 12-24/4.5-5.6, Nikkor 85/1.4D, 50/1.8G, AF-I 300/2.8
Panasonic GX7+14/2.5+14-42(II)+45-150.
M42: EBC Fujinon 50/1.4, EBC Fujinon-SW 24/2.8, EBC Fujinon 135/3.5, EBC Fujinon 75-150/4.5, MC Volna-9 (50/2.8, macro)
Fujinon x-Mount: Fujica AX-5, EBC x-Fujinon (Porst) 50/1.2, EBC Fujinon-T 135/3.5, EBC X-FUJINON-Z 35-70MM F2.8-3.7 DM |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
kissel wrote: |
As promised - the actual lens. |
On this view of the lens does anyone know if the lens is set for infinity (although it doesn't show it).......mine stops at this position _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Arkku
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1416 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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Arkku wrote:
Excalibur wrote: |
On this view of the lens does anyone know if the lens is set for infinity (although it doesn't show it).......mine stops at this position :?: |
No, it should go all the way up to the ∞ mark. |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5017 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Arkku wrote: |
Excalibur wrote: |
On this view of the lens does anyone know if the lens is set for infinity (although it doesn't show it).......mine stops at this position |
No, it should go all the way up to the ∞ mark. |
Ah! mine is faulty and only roughly accurate at minimum focus of 5 ft. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
Many lenses from good to excellent. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5994 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
A slightly different version, but an excellent lens.
Did someone say SHARP!
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cyrano
Joined: 15 Feb 2013 Posts: 856 Location: UK
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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cyrano wrote:
I acquired one of these in a job lot of Fujinons and an STX camera. They don't,for the most part get a great deal of interest but I am yet to try it out on a digital camera and the film I used it with was such high speed the results are too coarse to show anything special at all.
_________________ A whole bunch of stuff. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5994 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Mine were taken on the venerable Pentax K-10D.
Gotta love that camera
OH |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 5994 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
I was late getting into the garden today and the sunlight is harsher than yesterday.
Nevertheless the ol' Fujinon still took it in stride.
OH
The lens:
The leaves:
crop of last:
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3666 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
Nice shots, I have for the most part ignored Fujinon glass, I'm going to change that.
I'm now hunting for the X-Fujinon EBC 28/1.9, 50/1.4, an 85 & 135(though I don't know what speeds are available).
I'd love to get some Fuji RF glass, but their prices are insane. _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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izvar
Joined: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 252 Location: Moldova
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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izvar wrote:
Lightshow wrote: |
Nice shots, I have for the most part ignored Fujinon glass, I'm going to change that.
I'm now hunting for the X-Fujinon EBC 28/1.9, 50/1.4, an 85 & 135(though I don't know what speeds are available).
I'd love to get some Fuji RF glass, but their prices are insane. |
28/1.9 - don't own one, I'm collecting only M42 EBC's and never heard about this one.
+ for EBC 50/1.4 - one of the best 50 of that era. 85 - Fuji have not made a classical 85, except EBC 85/4 soft focus - a very very very special lens(needed only to complete a collection) - I recommend instead Fujinon EBC 100/2.8 - nice lens for portrait. One of the best Fujinons.
Fuji's 135 don't made me happy EBC 135/3.5 - buy Pentacon instead or TAIR(I like it more) EBC 135/2.5 - nice looking lens, but soft at 2.5 - fast lens has been sold fast;) _________________ “The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat.”
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Tedat
Joined: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 800 Location: Berlin/Germany
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Tedat wrote:
the EBC 28/1.9 is one of my favorite 28mm lenses _________________ Regards
Jan
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Contax T*: Distagon 4/18, Distagon 2/28, Distagon 1.4/35, PC-Distagon 2.8/35, Planar 1.4/50, Planar 1.4/85, Planar 2/100, Planar 2/135, S-Planar 2.8/60, Tessar 2.8/45, Mirotar 8/500, Vario Sonnar 3.4/35-70, Vario Sonnar 4.5-5.6/100-300
Carl Zeiss for Rollei QBM: F-Distagon 2.8/16 HFT, Distagon 2.8/25, Planar 1.4/50 HFT, Sonnar 2.8/85
Konica Hexanon AR: 2.8/21, 1.2/57
Other: Minolta F2.8 [T4.5] 135mm STF, Meopta Meostigmat 1.4/70, Tokina AT-X 2.5/90.. and lots of early M42 Yashinon, Rikenon and Mamiya lenses |
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vic
Joined: 24 Aug 2015 Posts: 16
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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vic wrote:
This fujinon ebc 135/3.5 was my first 135. Later I bought jupiter 37a, two of them really, a s-m-c takumar 135/3.5, and later on, a czjena 135/4 alu.
I have compared them on a few occasions, and these are my impressions
Jupiter 37 and czj sonnar 135/4 render exactly the same warm colours. s-m-c takumar also renders rather warm colours. Fujinon has colder colours, but more realistic or natural, to my eye, and and I like them more.
Wide open, both czj (f4) and jupiter 37 (3.5)are indistinguishable, very sharp. And the light difference from 3.5 to 4 is minimal. Tak and Fujinon fall slightly behind in terms of sharpness, at full aperture; my copy of the fujinon is very slightly dreamy, with subtle halos when pixel peeping, but nothing important, really.
Closed down one step, let's say at f5.6 ,and all the lenses are equally sharp from edge to edge, you'd be hard pressed to see any difference in real use.
I have not tried them bokehwise head to head, but I can say all the lenses seem to have nice defocused areas. I can't say about highlights, but I'm not good at judging bokeh anyway.
From 5.6 onwards, they don't seem to improve much. They are all very decent. It is true the circular shaped blades of the jupiter are very cool, I guess they will provide superior performance. But I cant see anything wrong with the oof areas in the others.
Mechanically, the tak is a piece of art in engineering, way better than the others. Second, I would place the fujinon, with its silky smooth focusing ring. Thirdly the jupiter, and the last one the cz jena. I had to grind the rear part of the fujinon to sit on the m42-eos adapter, but it was an easy job.
So, all in all, the lens I used the most is the jupiter, because it is great from wide open, and I like it aesthetically hehe. However, image wise I love the fujinon colours. Imho, all of them are really nice, and capable of fantastic images.
One thing I have noticed about the jupiter and that I dislike is that it produces strange output colour for purple or red subjects like poppies, in images with great contrast. They just dont come out real. I wonder why its that. |
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7771 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I have a lot of 135's, including two Takumar 135 3.5's - one is the early pre set lens - and both are wonderful, if pushed I would choose the pre set.
The Fujinon lenses intrigue me though, I have a cheap, plastic 55 / 2.2 Fujinon that was almost certainly the slow and cheap kit lens option for some camera or another. But it's actually a very nice lens, sharp centre and fashionable bubble bokeh. I shall be looking for an equally cheap 135. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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