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dekiller



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nikon-f2-fotomic is in UK.
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Attila



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please explain why ?
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35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon:2.8/20mm, 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/85mm,2/85mm,2.8/135mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,3.5/55mm macro,2/90mm macro,35-70mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica:21mm f4, 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,135mm f3.2,200mm f3.5,4/300mm,40cm f4.5
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody have experience with this guy on eBay. . .
albert20fut08
or experience from sellers in Peru?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've god bad experience with member446885/Keith Rock also. Paid for Super-Takumar but received nothing. Evil or Very Mad
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Attila



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice to see you here ! Sorry to being member of Rocky's "fun" club.
Perhaps he is the most bad reputation seller here.
To buy from him need luck for sure.
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Konica III,Bessa L,Yashica Electro GN,Canonette QL 17

35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon:2.8/20mm, 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/85mm,2/85mm,2.8/135mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,3.5/55mm macro,2/90mm macro,35-70mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica:21mm f4, 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,135mm f3.2,200mm f3.5,4/300mm,40cm f4.5
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
I have no idea about him, but I met some nasty trick, if I won on low price sellers doesn't responded to my mails even if I sent 2-3 or more and ?! One month later they reported me as unpaid bidder Shocked
I am afraid my Leica Macro will not mine ever, seller also not response at all.


mwclassic = plonker...
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piticu



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject: :( Reply with quote

waltz78 - inadequate packaging (cardboard envelope), overcharged me for shipping, very aggressive emails after i left the positive feedback. Poor customer service. To be avoided.
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Farside



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:17 pm    Post subject: Re: :( Reply with quote

[quote="waltz78"]
piticu wrote:
waltz78 - inadequate packaging (cardboard envelope), overcharged me for shipping, very aggressive emails after i left the positive feedback. Poor customer service. To be avoided.


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Don't you find it odd that you're the only one to speak up against me?

Eh? He's not. Very few, granted, but he's not the only one. Some mention crap packaging, funnily enough. The vast majority of your buyers are happy though, and that's what counts. Perhaps you should refrain from going off on one at the slightest hint of criticism.
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Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of pseudo patriotic fervor - with the cries of grave national emergency. always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real. - General Douglas McArthur

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence, clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L.Mencken

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
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Attila



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Packaging was crappy really, I never put any lens into envelope. If buyer won't pay higher shipping cost I not sell to him, this is pretty obvious I think.
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Folder cameras: Konishiroku Pearl, Bessa RF Heliar,Bessa I Color-Skopar,Ercona II Tessar,Franka III Schneider-Kreuznach Radionar
[color=black][b]35mm rangefinder
Konica III,Bessa L,Yashica Electro GN,Canonette QL 17

35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon:2.8/20mm, 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/85mm,2/85mm,2.8/135mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,3.5/55mm macro,2/90mm macro,35-70mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica:21mm f4, 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,135mm f3.2,200mm f3.5,4/300mm,40cm f4.5
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Farside



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Packaging was crappy really, I never put any lens into envelope. If buyer won't pay higher shipping cost I not sell to him, this is pretty obvious I think.

Problem is, none of us know for sure if the Customs opened it and didn't bother re-packing it properly. They usually mark the parcel or put a sticker on it, if they have done so.
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Our government has kept us in a perpetual state of fear - kept us in a continuous stampede of pseudo patriotic fervor - with the cries of grave national emergency. always there has been some terrible evil to gobble us up if we did not blindly rally behind it by furnishing the exorbitant funds demanded. Yet, in retrospect, these disasters seem never to have happened, seem never to have been quite real. - General Douglas McArthur

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence, clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L.Mencken

The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
Herman Goering at the Nuremberg Trial
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience with customs, if item packed into cardboard box they can't make any damage they open it and wrap again without problems. Sometimes I also got lens in envelope I really don't like at all even if lens arrived in safety.
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Folder cameras: Konishiroku Pearl, Bessa RF Heliar,Bessa I Color-Skopar,Ercona II Tessar,Franka III Schneider-Kreuznach Radionar
[color=black][b]35mm rangefinder
Konica III,Bessa L,Yashica Electro GN,Canonette QL 17

35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon:2.8/20mm, 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/85mm,2/85mm,2.8/135mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,3.5/55mm macro,2/90mm macro,35-70mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica:21mm f4, 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,135mm f3.2,200mm f3.5,4/300mm,40cm f4.5
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this case you have right we must do everything as possible from both side to solve problems.
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[color=black][b]35mm rangefinder
Konica III,Bessa L,Yashica Electro GN,Canonette QL 17

35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon:2.8/20mm, 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/85mm,2/85mm,2.8/135mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,3.5/55mm macro,2/90mm macro,35-70mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica:21mm f4, 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,135mm f3.2,200mm f3.5,4/300mm,40cm f4.5
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that sellers responsibility is to care about handling and secure packing of every single item which is going out to the shipping provider.
I am sorry to write it but seller can not blame anybody for showing disappointment after getting optic element in cardboard envelope. Lens suppose be shipped always in the box well protected except situation when buyer wants to cut down cost of shipping and requests cheapest shipping possible.
Sometimes method of S/H is the way to show respect to the buyer. Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can not be a judge in such situation because this is not my business. What I wrote is what I believe. I was selling plants. Plants are much more fragile. When I set estimate cost of shipping and buyer agreed to pay it was responsible to deliver parcel to her/him with living/perfect condition plant. When I made mistake in my estimate S/H nobody was guilty but me. I had to ship in the box even it took additional cost on My side. Did you let buyer know that you are going to ship lens in envelope - even in cardboard one? If not, sorry again to write it - You had to ship lens in the box and charge him true cost of shipping without any packing, driving, handling, whatever costs. Why? Because this way it is really cheaper. If you want to cover all cost you had - let it buyer know. In details. It's fair.
Everything in this and my previous post is my private opinion. As an ebay seller I've never received neither negative nor neutral feedback.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was my first post too I never ship anything wrongly wrapped even if buyer want. I got one neutral feedback due high shipping cost , now I put into every description shipping cost is higher due more durable wrapping material as usual. Shipping is my responsibility fully, I also never ship without insurance, registration and signed-for confirmation.
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Folder cameras: Konishiroku Pearl, Bessa RF Heliar,Bessa I Color-Skopar,Ercona II Tessar,Franka III Schneider-Kreuznach Radionar
[color=black][b]35mm rangefinder
Konica III,Bessa L,Yashica Electro GN,Canonette QL 17

35mm SLRKonica FM,Konica FP,Konica FT-1,Konica FC-1,Konica TC4,Nikon FA,Exakta VarexIIa,Fujica ST801
Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon:2.8/20mm, 2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/85mm,2/85mm,2.8/135mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,3.5/55mm macro,2/90mm macro,35-70mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro
Konica:21mm f4, 28mm f3.5,35mm f2.8,50mm f1.4,57mm f1.2,85mm f1.8,100mm f2.8,135mm f3.5,135mm f3.2,200mm f3.5,4/300mm,40cm f4.5
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