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yadisl
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 Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:42 pm Post subject: DP 1 vs. E500 + 14-54/2.8 |
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yadisl wrote:
Not so serious comparison
First: DP1 (no adjust)
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
Then Olympus E500 + 14-54 (resized to the same width with DP1)
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
E 500 + 14-54 (level adjust, boost saturation and sharpened in GIMP)
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KM Dynax 7D
Sigma DP1
Rokkor MD 200/4, MD 50/1.4, MC PF 50/1.4, MD 135/3.5, Pentax SMC-M 50/4 macro, Takumar 105/2.8, Jena DDR 135/3.5, Porst 135/2.8, Prinzgalaxy 300/4, Mamiya ZE 300/4, Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, CZJ Flektogon 4/20, Helios 58/2, Konica Hexar AR 50/1.4, Wollensak Velostigmat 90/4.5, Voigtlander Heliar 18 cm / 4.5, Heliar 15 cm / 4.5, APO Lanthar 15 cm / 4.5, Zeiss Tessar 105/3.5, Zeiss Opton 75/3.5, Mamiya 55/2.8, ZD 14-42, Minolta 17-35/2.8-4 D, Petri 35/3.5, Leica-R 35/2.8, Minolta 70-210/4, Minolta 35-70/4, Minolta 50/1.7. |
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Attila wrote:
Adjusted picture is equal with DP1 , without adjusting pretty crap.
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rbelyell wrote:
not so serious, but to me foveon proves itself again! and really, this is how we shoot, right? not at charts, but at scenes! i often miss my sd14, but then i remember what a pain it was to get those foveon images!
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| rbelyell wrote: |
| not so serious, but to me foveon proves itself again! and really, this is how we shoot, right? not at charts, but at scenes! i often miss my sd14, but then i remember what a pain it was to get those foveon images! |
Yes, Foveon proved that it can compete with a downsized version of an image taken with a smaller sensored camera  |
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Orio wrote:
The first image shows a degree of barrel distortion higher than the second image.
Since tuning the colours of a digital camera can be done afterwards with no resolution loss (while instead correcting barrel distortion produces a degradation of the IQ), I would choose the camera of the second image.
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yadisl
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| Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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yadisl wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
The first image shows a degree of barrel distortion higher than the second image.
Since tuning the colours of a digital camera can be done afterwards with no resolution loss (while instead correcting barrel distortion produces a degradation of the IQ), I would choose the camera of the second image. |
Aww, you're right, Orio. It's pretty much pronounced in that area.
Although as far as I see DP1's picture handles highlights better than the Oly (due to bigger sensor, probably).
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
| rbelyell wrote: |
| not so serious, but to me foveon proves itself again! and really, this is how we shoot, right? not at charts, but at scenes! i often miss my sd14, but then i remember what a pain it was to get those foveon images! |
Yes, somehow I think it doesn't worth the effort - but the foveon look is just so unique and lovely that I do shoot with it again and again. Especially because of the 'pocketability' factor of the DP1.
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Tell me what you love, I will tell you who you are (Proust)
TLR yashica 635, 124
Canon canonet 1.9
Olympus E500
KM Dynax 7D
Sigma DP1
Rokkor MD 200/4, MD 50/1.4, MC PF 50/1.4, MD 135/3.5, Pentax SMC-M 50/4 macro, Takumar 105/2.8, Jena DDR 135/3.5, Porst 135/2.8, Prinzgalaxy 300/4, Mamiya ZE 300/4, Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, CZJ Flektogon 4/20, Helios 58/2, Konica Hexar AR 50/1.4, Wollensak Velostigmat 90/4.5, Voigtlander Heliar 18 cm / 4.5, Heliar 15 cm / 4.5, APO Lanthar 15 cm / 4.5, Zeiss Tessar 105/3.5, Zeiss Opton 75/3.5, Mamiya 55/2.8, ZD 14-42, Minolta 17-35/2.8-4 D, Petri 35/3.5, Leica-R 35/2.8, Minolta 70-210/4, Minolta 35-70/4, Minolta 50/1.7. |
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yadisl
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yadisl wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Adjusted picture is equal with DP1 , without adjusting pretty crap. |
Yeah, in fact I can produce the 'processed look' by selecting the vivid tone in the E500.
Way faster than messing with SPP 4.1
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Tell me what you love, I will tell you who you are (Proust)
TLR yashica 635, 124
Canon canonet 1.9
Olympus E500
KM Dynax 7D
Sigma DP1
Rokkor MD 200/4, MD 50/1.4, MC PF 50/1.4, MD 135/3.5, Pentax SMC-M 50/4 macro, Takumar 105/2.8, Jena DDR 135/3.5, Porst 135/2.8, Prinzgalaxy 300/4, Mamiya ZE 300/4, Jena Tessar 50/2.8, Pancolar 50/1.8, CZJ Flektogon 4/20, Helios 58/2, Konica Hexar AR 50/1.4, Wollensak Velostigmat 90/4.5, Voigtlander Heliar 18 cm / 4.5, Heliar 15 cm / 4.5, APO Lanthar 15 cm / 4.5, Zeiss Tessar 105/3.5, Zeiss Opton 75/3.5, Mamiya 55/2.8, ZD 14-42, Minolta 17-35/2.8-4 D, Petri 35/3.5, Leica-R 35/2.8, Minolta 70-210/4, Minolta 35-70/4, Minolta 50/1.7. |
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