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Fitou
Joined: 18 Jul 2015 Posts: 21 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:24 pm Post subject: Decisions Decisions |
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Fitou wrote:
I have recently been looking out for some mf lenses to use on my Fuji X Pro 1 and have picked up a couple of Jupiter 8's and 11, a Helios and I am very pleased with them. I am currently considering a mir 1b Grand Prix but was wondering if I should consider spending a bit extra to purchase a CZJ flektagon or biotar that seem to be available on e bay would that be worth the extra expense. Any views gratefully appreciated. |
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miran
Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Posts: 1364 Location: Slovenia
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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miran wrote:
This is not a well formed question. Because:
a.) Yes, it's worth the extra expense.
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b.) You should and eventually will get them all anyway.
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visualopsins
Joined: 05 Mar 2009 Posts: 10463 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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visualopsins wrote:
There are plenty of example photos from each lens posted online.
Some people like the Russian optics. Some like the German optics. Some like the Japan optics. Some like the phenomenal new Chinese optics. Some people like any number of them!
Search to find, of course.
Then again, my advise is buy in as high as you can afford...selling is much more work than buying. _________________ ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮ like attracts like! ☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮☮
Cameras: Sony A7Rii, Spotmatics II, F, and ESII, Nikon P4
M42 Asahi Optical Co., Lenses:
Takumar 1:4 f=35mm, 1:2 f=58mm (Sonnar), 1:2.4 f=58mm (Heliar), 1:2.2 f=55mm (Gaussian), 1:2.8 f=105mm (Model I), 1:2.8/105 (Model II), 1:5.6/200
Tele-Takumar 1:5.6/200, 1:6.3/300
Macro-Takumar 1:4/50
Auto-Takumar 1:2.3 f=35, 1:1.8 f=55mm, 1:2.2 f=55mm
Super-TAKUMAR 1:3.5/28 (fat), 1:2/35 (Fat), 1:1.4/50 (8-element),
Super-Multi-Coated Fisheye-TAKUMAR 1:4/17
Super-Multi-Coated TAKUMAR 1:4.5/20, 1:3.5/24, 1:3.5/28, 1:2/35, 1:3.5/35, 1:1.8/85, 1:1.9/85 1:2.8/105, 1:3.5/135, 1:2.5/135 (II), 1:4/150, 1:4/200, 1:4/300, 1:4.5/500
Super-Multi-Coated Macro-TAKUMAR 1:4/50, 1:4/100
Super-Multi-Coated Bellows-TAKUMAR 1:4/100
SMC TAKUMAR 1:1.4/50, 1:1.8/55
Other lenses:
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 2.4/35
SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:3.5 35~105mm, SMC PENTAX ZOOM 1:4 45~125mm
Nikon Micro-NIKKOR-P-C Auto 1:3.5 f=55mm, NIKKOR-P Auto 105mm f/2.5 Pre-AI (Sonnar), Micro-NIKKOR 105mm 1:4 AI, NIKKOR AI-S 35-135mm f/3,5-4,5
Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51B), Tamron SP 17mm f/3.5 (51BB), SP 500mm f/8 (55BB), SP 70-210mm f/3.5 (19AH)
Vivitar 100mm 1:2.8 MC 1:1 Macro Telephoto
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Pancolart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 3693 Location: Slovenia, EU
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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Pancolart wrote:
35mm Mir is very similar to Flektogon with exception of MFD. If you need it then Flektogon is correct choice. If your Helios 58mm is good performer there is no need to buy Biotar. But we are mostly beyond the "need" here and collectors ambition mostly overrides. _________________ ---------------------------------
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Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7776 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Lloydy wrote:
I had a MIR 1B and really liked it, then I bought a Flektogon.....and sold the MIR.
The MIR is very good, don't discount it at all, if you get one you'll enjoy it. But......the Flektogon will be calling your name. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
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marcusBMG
Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Posts: 1301 Location: Conwy N Wales
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Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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marcusBMG wrote:
Or alternatively get a takumar 35mm.... _________________ pentax ME super (retired)
Pentax K3-ii; pentax K-S2; Samsung NX 20; Lumix G1 + adapters;
Adaptall collection (proliferating!) inc 200-500mm 31A, 300mm f2.8, 400mm f4.
Primes: takumar 55mm; smc 28mm, 50mm; kino/komine 28mm f2's, helios 58mm, Tamron Nestar 400mm, novoflex 400mm, Vivitar 135mm close focus, 105mm macro; Jupiter 11A; CZJ 135mm.
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3209 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
visualopsins wrote: |
There are plenty of example photos from each lens posted online.
Some people like the Russian optics. Some like the German optics. Some like the Japan optics. Some like the phenomenal new Chinese optics. |
You forgot South Korean optics. _________________ Moderator Himself |
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newst
Joined: 21 Oct 2014 Posts: 617 Location: Troy, MI USA
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2016 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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newst wrote:
It has all been said here except the quality of the individual lenses.
1. The MIR-1 is a very good lens. The ultimate development of that design, the MIR-24 is even better. A Flektogon fits between the two. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL LENSES BEING COMPARED.
2. The Helios 44 is a clone of the Biotar. They are very close. I have seen Helios lenses that were better than Biotars and the reverse. Remember: IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE QUALITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL LENSES BEING COMPARED. _________________ Steve
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