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koji
 Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: CV NOKTON 50/1.1 VS Konica M-HEXANON 50/1.2 |
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koji wrote:
I have long time hesitated to upload this, but what a heck.
Probably the best place might be "rangefinder.com", but I promised to
Attila to lure general lens loving people to this MFlenses. So....
(The only person might peek this thread will be Sun...16?)
I used Nokton on M6 and Hexanon on M2, and the film used is Fuji Reala
and scanned by EPSON V700 without any options. USM is applied under
PSE (PhotoShopElement, 100,1,0) and some color balance. Shots are all hand-held,
used the same exposure for the both cameras after using M6+NOKTON 50/1.1.
Always CV NOKTON photo first, and click the photo to enlarge
both @f5.6
both @f5.6 (both are trimmed to show the same scene)
From the above two shots, it is hard to tell which is which except slight difference in colour.
both @f1.1 and 1.2 slightly different angle
both @f1.1 and 1.2
Murano glass shop both @f1.1 and 1.2 slightly trimmed t show the same area (see bokeh)
Nokton @f5.6 and 100% at upper right corner to see coma aberration during day
M-Hexanon @f5.6 and 100% at upper right corner to see coma aberration during day
Generally speaking M-Hexanon has warmer colour rendition, and less vignetting than NOKTON but difference is small.
It appears to me NOKTON at wide open seems a bit sharper than M-Hexanon at its f1.2, Hexanon seems to have
residual coma aberration more than NOKTON, hence bokeh is a bit uglier.
So the current on going price is about double for M-Hexanon due to scarcity, NOKTON is a bargain in a sense today.
Since it is difficult to see much difference between these two lenses, of course people may find preferences.
Sorry I did not include Canon 50/1.2 L-mount lens in here, because hard to carry three camera and lens sets.
If the price matters, Canon is hands down winner I guess. _________________ My Home Page has 17,900 photos in 558 directories today.
Lenses: https://www.pbase.com/kkawakami/top_level_my_lenses
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kds315*
 Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16485 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Ha, so why am I looking? Andy (f16sunshine sure will too)...
Excellent test, Arigato domo Koji! _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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koji
 Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Hi Klaus,
of course you may peruse this thread. Hahaha _________________ My Home Page has 17,900 photos in 558 directories today.
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Orio
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
Thanks for the very interesting comparison, Koji !
They both seem excellent lenses; it's very hard to select one, they are on the same quality level. The only really visible difference is the warmer tone of the Hexanon, the reason why, perhaps, I would choose the Nokton if I had to buy one. _________________ Orio, Administrator
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Attila
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Many , many thanks! Noway to put anywhere else, this is best place for you and for your fantastic gears!  _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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koji
 Joined: 21 Jul 2008 Posts: 2107 Location: Hiroshima, Japan
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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koji wrote:
Extra photos by CV NOKTON 50/1.1 click the photo to enlarge
morning glory @f1.1 Reala (not a good composition)
another photg @f2? Reala (trimmed)
@f1.1 Superia 200 (MFD 1m)
@f1.1 Superia 200 (shaked, did not have time, a girl in cetre has strange ear to nose "ring/bar".... and see comas at upper right, normal amount I guess)
These photos looks sharper if I used M8, which should be fixed but I am too lazy. _________________ My Home Page has 17,900 photos in 558 directories today.
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