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poilu
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 Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:06 pm Post subject: Contax Mutar I - best doubler ? |
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poilu wrote:
lately I wrote that I am not happy with the doubler
I check it with the contax 85:1.4 and quality is only ok from 2.8
today I try it with the contax 85:2.8 and I get a surprise, great result
here are some sample on 5DII from 1 hour ago with harsh light but I wanted to share
this is a combo I will think about, to have a 170:5.6 without filing the bag can be handy
doubler can give quality, but not with every lens
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edit: I forget to note that all those samples are at 2.8
closing down will of course improve quality but light is not always enough
100% crop not sharpened
100% crop sharpened
100% crop
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Yes, right all TC even best ones like this is designed for specific lens (lenses) not for all as you recognized clearly.
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Anu
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Anu wrote:
A question: when you say not sharpened about the crops, what do you really mean? Did you take jpegs with the camera with the sharpening setting set to minimum, or in raw with the raw converter sharpening set to zero?
I'm sorry about being like this, but I always want to know maximum info.
How is the bokeh with this combo? Especially the non-center area? |
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Nice results! I thought the Mutar II was the one most people go on about though? I need to do some research 
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poilu
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Shrek wrote: |
| I thought the Mutar II was the one most people go on about though? |
Mutar II work with less lenses from 135mm
download pdf here http://www.zeiss.de/c12567a8003b58b9/Contents-Frame/5ed01eb620d0b1cec12570f80033cada
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or in raw with the raw converter sharpening set to zero?
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this one, I don't use jpg
here is a 100% of same pic this time sharpened
quite good for doubler wide open
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| How is the bokeh with this combo? Especially the non-center area? |
I don't know yet, it was the first time I used this combo
but in focus, borders have good quality from wide open
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ManualFocus-G
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Aha! Thanks poilu, I've just seen the thread on the mainboard too
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trifox wrote:
Poilu - great!!
Zeiss is the best
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Rolf wrote:
Bought a Mutar I last week. Will receive this week.
BTW on your main street (pic 3) I bought during my last visit at the end of season on the right side a ballpen from a very famous manufacturer. Was much cheaper than in Germany. And the visit before on the left side a watch - much cheaper than in Germany too. 
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poilu wrote:
thanks for nice comments
a sample from today, 85:2.8 with mutar and ext tubes on 5DII
100% crop
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Rolf wrote:
Poilu, did you use the Mutar I for lens with more or equal 135mm too ?
As I could read it is possible but not recommended. Any experiences ?
Thanks for your assistance
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poilu
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poilu wrote:
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| Poilu, did you use the Mutar I for lens with more or equal 135mm too ? |
I don't use the mutar for any lens, I just make some test to check if I can trust it for light travel setup
check pdf for mutar http://www.zeiss.de/c12567a8003b58b9/Contents-Frame/5ed01eb620d0b1cec12570f80033cada
it say it work with all lenses but some with optical limitation
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Rolf wrote:
Thank you for the link. That was the information I had before. Question is, what is "2 = possible combination but with optical limitations" ?
I thought that you have had some experiences with that. It seems that the Mutar II is much more expensive than the M I.
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poilu wrote:
funny that the Photobucket pics are still there 
2010, it was the only and last time I used the Mutar
I should find it and use it again
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jamaeolus wrote:
Please do. I am looking to start gathering a contax collection to use on my a7rii. Totally intrigued by the images from the 35mm 1.4. I intend to sell a load of lenses to pick it up. In my research I see these are less than a hundred dollars and supposedly amongst the best of the TC's out there.
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europanorama wrote:
| Attila wrote: |
| Yes, right all TC even best ones like this is designed for specific lens (lenses) not for all as you recognized clearly. |
Mutar I designed for both 85/1.4 and 2.8 but in analoge-times. there is a table by zeiss online named:
Possibilities of combining carl zeiss lenses with mutar converters for use with contax SLR camera system
with digital results maybe be different. the day will come when i will check this out. also have a kenko newest version from that time decades ago.
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| Rolf wrote: |
Thank you for the link. That was the information I had before. Question is, what is "2 = possible combination but with optical limitations" ?
I thought that you have had some experiences with that. It seems that the Mutar II is much more expensive than the M I.
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very strange you are asking. what else is optical limitations other than image-quality-limitations. try it out.
The Mutar II is not the better one but for other lenses. check the chart. Mutar II is for lenses 135mm upwards(ecept 200/3.5(Mutar I-ready)
also Mutar II for the zooms with limits for 70-210. 35-135 also has limits incl.vignetting-
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