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JC
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 25 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:31 pm Post subject: condensation or fungus? |
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JC wrote:
Bought this lens on a gamble, advertised as a little bit of fungus, but now that I have the lens, not sure this is fungus. It looks more like dried water droplets or similar. They are both on a single piece of glass behind the aperture, which is pretty darn dusty.
in this picture the whole lens element looks fogged, but it's not.
either way, they are small and very peripheral, and not, I think, a big deal.
so, fungus or condensation? |
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philslizzy
 Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4749 Location: Cheshire, England
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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philslizzy wrote:
To my eye it looks like its either chipped glass or cement is coming apart from the elements. Defo not fungus. Is there physical damage to the barrel near the mark? I've seen this kind of thing on lenses where the filter mount is bent after a drop. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
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JC
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 25 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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JC wrote:
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| To my eye it looks like its either chipped glass or cement is coming apart from the elements. Defo not fungus. Is there physical damage to the barrel near the mark? I've seen this kind of thing on lenses where the filter mount is bent after a drop. |
No, exterior of the lens is pretty pristine. The rear element group this piece is a part of doesn't even touch the lens barrel. I thought about lens separation the way they are both lined up on the edge, but they really look like they are nucleating off of a piece of dust, with a wide halo where the drop started, and the core where the drop left behind all it's crud. |
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:39 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Separation I think, it usually starts at the edge like that. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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JC
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 25 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:32 am Post subject: |
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JC wrote:
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| Separation I think, it usually starts at the edge like that. |
Ok, I don't think this lens has any double/cemented elements, if I am reading the cross section diagrams correctly?
http://www.alanwood.net/photography/olympus/macro-lens-90-2.html |
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ZoneV
 Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 1648 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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ZoneV wrote:
Uh, the Olympus 90mm/2 Macro!
Does not look like delamination to me, more like fungus, or probbaly some kind of other dirt. _________________ Camera modification, repair and DIY - some links to look through: http://www.4photos.de/camera-diy/index-en.html
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:15 am Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Hmm, so no cemented elements. Then I would say it is probably what is left behind after some liquid has dried. Definitely doesn't look like any fungus I've seen before. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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JC
Joined: 02 Jul 2013 Posts: 25 Location: U.S.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:49 am Post subject: |
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JC wrote:
literally the day after my last post I had to pack up all my gear and move, and so I didn't have much chance to use my new lens.
This is probably not the best test of the lens, but this is what I've done with it recently.
Olympus 90mm macro, plus Olympus OM 65-116 Variable Extension Tube, on the OM-D E-M5. Field of view is <1cm.
Any flaws in the image are from my impromptu set up, quick focus stack, and flashlight lighting system.
I think I gambled and got a great deal. Pretty sure now that the splotches are just condensation rings.
Now I need to start a hunt for the 20mm macro. |
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leemik
 Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 107 Location: Quincy, MA
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2014 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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leemik wrote:
I think I have the same thing on a Konica Hexanon 57/1.2 .. on my lens it's near the middle of the glass not the edges. It's a round circular bullseye like defect that looks like yours. Hard to photograph. I can see 3 very faint ones near it as well when I look at the lens at an angle. Not sure if it's just a reflection of the defect or 3 other less apparent defects.
I never could figure out what it was. It doesn't seem to affect pictures.. heck I think the metal shroud on the rear element has more of an effect
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Gardener
 Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Gardener wrote:
Could be a water spot. If you are not on full frame I would not worry about it. |
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Gerald
 Joined: 25 Mar 2014 Posts: 1196 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Gerald wrote:
Bad news: it appears to be fungus.
Good news: the amount is too little to affect the picture.  _________________ If raindrops were perfect lenses, the rainbow did not exist. |
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