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CJZ Biotar versus Super Tak
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:09 pm    Post subject: CJZ Biotar versus Super Tak Reply with quote
Hi People.
I got a new (old) CJZ Biotar, 58mm last week and am in looove with it. I had some fun comparing it to a Super Tak 28. I used my favorite model “Shade”. She’s very quiet, requires no model release, and holds nice plants in her head.

Here’s the CJZ shot, nothing done to it except cropping.



Here’s the Tak 28, nothing done to it except cropping.



The differences are interesting and nothing unexpected really. Both were shot wide open and as close to the model as I could get. The 28 has a naturally deeper DOF and is sharp throughout the DOF. The CJZ is equally (if not a bit more) sharp in it’s shallower DOF.

It’s about the colors though. The CJZ gives me better (to my eye) colors than the TAK although the TAK is very close.

Fun comparison

Jules


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Comparing a 58mm with a 28mm - apples and oranges???


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Comparing a 58mm with a 28mm - apples and oranges???


Yes lens salad. Just fun to see the difference. Neither one "wins", both are good, just different and it's good to see the real difference. Seems to me the CJZ is better for art and the TAK better for documentation.

Jules


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
On this subject almost any lens perform well. on a landscape or an animal portrait we can see more significant difference.I tested also these two lenses, I sold immediately my SMC Takumar 28mm f3.5 because wasn't good lens at all. I love my Biotars and keep them.


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
On this subject almost any lens perform well. on a landscape or an animal portrait we can see more significant difference.I tested also these two lenses, I sold immediately my SMC Takumar 28mm f3.5 because wasn't good lens at all. I love my Biotars and keep them.


As time goes on and I'm using different lenses I seem to be leaning much more to the Russian/German glass.

So far my top lenses are the Biotar, the Jupiter 9, the Jupiter 21A, several Mamiyas and that's about it. The Taks I have are really good, but that's not enough.

I just bought a Mir 37mm, don't have it yet, so I'm still in the process of finding glass that knocks me out. I'm not really a collector, I use these lenses. I've only learned about what's possible with manual lenses for a little over a year so I'm still pretty new to it, In fact, I joined here a year (and several dollars) ago this month.

Cheers

Jules


PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kds315* wrote:
Comparing a 58mm with a 28mm - apples and oranges???


Yes, comparison is impossible.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That is a fun little comparison, lululake! Oh, I don't mean a "comparison" as far as being a formal testing procedure. But, I enjoy seeing the differences in depth of fields, just to see what a 28 gives you in relation to a 58.

I agree that it can't be a pure head-to-head look at such wildly different lenses. That said, I do enjoy seeing how the different glass -- and totally dichotomous lens groupings -- renders the colorations. Fun to look at!
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