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Jesito
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Jesito wrote:
Would you pay so much for this camera?...
Click here to see on Ebay
I wouldn't, for sure....
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Katastrofo
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:50 am Post subject: |
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Katastrofo wrote:
Jes, offer to buy the lenses separately, I'm sure they would *very*
inexpensive! If you believe that, I have a small high school in the
midwest I want to sell you! 
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poilu
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:27 am Post subject: |
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The Leica M7 is the latest rangefinder camera in the nearly half century old M line, proudly released in the Spring of 2002 and hailed by one authority as "One step closer to perfection." It is the first M camera with aperture priority automation (automatic shutter speeds).
The upshot? The Leica M7 will be the most successful and best-loved Leica ever. |
Jesito if you want to spend so much money (   ) it's better to go to a professional shop with guarantee.
I think this seller is too expensive, ffordes sell mint body 1500?.
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Jesito
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
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The Leica M7 is the latest rangefinder camera in the nearly half century old M line, proudly released in the Spring of 2002 and hailed by one authority as "One step closer to perfection." It is the first M camera with aperture priority automation (automatic shutter speeds).
The upshot? The Leica M7 will be the most successful and best-loved Leica ever. |
Jesito if you want to spend so much money ( ) it's better to go to a professional shop with guarantee.
I think this seller is too expensive, ffordes sell mint body 1500?. |
Hi Poilu,
That was I thougth. No one in proper mind status would spend so much in eBay for such a camera. (Otherwise wonderful machine  )
Best regards,
Jes.
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DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
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Jesito
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| Katastrofo wrote: |
Jes, offer to buy the lenses separately, I'm sure they would *very*
inexpensive! If you believe that, I have a small high school in the
midwest I want to sell you!
Bill |
Hi Bill,
Here people use to sell Pacific islands instead... If you're interested, we could swap a Pacific island by a small high school...
Best regards,
Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
Fixed Industar-50, , Tamron 24mm, Tamron 135mm, Sands Hunter 135mm, Pancolar 50mm, Volna-3, many Exakta lenses
DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
Rangefinders Chinon 35EE, Konica C35 auto, Canonet 28, Yashica Lynx, FED-2, Yashica electro 35, Argus C3 & C4, Regula Cita III, Voigtlander Vitoret (many), Welta Welti-I, Kodak Signette 35, Zorki-4, Bessa-R & L, Minolta Weathermatic, olympus XA2
Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
The price is not excessive, have you seen what is one of the two lenses?
An APO-Summicron 90
Look in the current Leica catalogue for the price of this lens...
The error of the seller is to sell these things all together, it will be more difficult.
But if you make the sum of the cost of the APO-Summicron + the M7 + the motor + the Elmarit 24, you will see that the price is correct.
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Jesito
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Jesito wrote:
| Orio wrote: |
The price is not excessive, have you seen what is one of the two lenses?
An APO-Summicron 90
Look in the current Leica catalogue for the price of this lens...
The error of the seller is to sell these things all together, it will be more difficult.
But if you make the sum of the cost of the APO-Summicron + the M7 + the motor + the Elmarit 24, you will see that the price is correct.
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Orio, you're right. But even being correct the price, I think is too much for a camera... (At least for me, I'd like to think that the good photos are taken by the photographer, not by the camera...)
Best regards,
Jes.
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Zooms Sigma 70-300, Tamron 35-135 and 70-210 short, 70-210 long, 28-70 CF Macro, 35-70, 35-80, Vivitar 70-210 KA, Tamron 70-250.
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DSLR SIGMA SD9 & SD14, EOS 5D, Sony A700 and NEXF3, Oly E-330, E-400, E-450, E-1
TLR/6x6/645 YashicaMat, Petri 6x45, Nettar, Franka Solida, Brilliant
SLR Minolta X300, Fuji STX II, Praktica VLC3, Pentax P30t, EXA500, EXA 1A, Spotmatic(2), Chinon CM-4S, Ricoh, Contax, Konica TC-X , Minolta 5000, 7000i, 3Sxi, EOS 500 and CX
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Compact Film Konica C35V, Voigtlander Vitorets, Canon Prima Super 105, Olympus XA2 and XA3
Compact Digital Olympus C-5050, Aiptek Slim 3000, Canon Powershot A540, Nikon 5200, SIGMA DP1s, Polaroid X530, IXUS55, Kodak 6490, Powershot G9 and G10
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Orio
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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Orio wrote:
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Orio, you're right. But even being correct the price, I think is too much for a camera... (At least for me, I'd like to think that the good photos are taken by the photographer, not by the camera...)
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Yes, I agree it's too much in absolute terms.
But even if it's not a reasonable price, yet, it's the market price...
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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LucisPictor wrote:
Yes, the price is OK. Of course, I would not pay this money for a cam (my wife would kill me!)
But if you want this set, you will have to pay that much...
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poilu
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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poilu wrote:
| Jes wrote: |
| At least for me, I'd like to think that the good photos are taken by the photographer, not by the camera... |
Henri Cartier-Bresson described the Leica as an extension of his eye
Maybe he could have made good photo with a autofocus Canon
But if he was happy with Leica, it's OK for me
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Farside wrote:
| poilu wrote: |
| Jes wrote: |
| At least for me, I'd like to think that the good photos are taken by the photographer, not by the camera... |
Henri Cartier-Bresson described the Leica as an extension of his eye
Maybe he could have made good photo with a autofocus Canon
But if he was happy with Leica, it's OK for me |
H C-B could probably have taken decent pics with a Box Brownie or an Instamatic. Like many others, of course, he was happy with what he was used to.
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