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Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar 60 2.8 vs Leica Macro-Elmar 60 2.8
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:59 am    Post subject: Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar 60 2.8 vs Leica Macro-Elmar 60 2.8 Reply with quote

I have Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar 60 2.8, and I have chance to get Leica Macro-Elmarit-R 60mm 2.8. Dose anyone ever compared these two lenses?


PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I had both. Compared them and with my copies, the Zeiss was better.
Well, then compared them to my Olympus macro lenses and sold the Leitz and the Zeiss.

Greetings


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked






Smile

Cheers,

RSalles


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered Olympus always as the Japanese specialist in this area. So I am not really surprised. They have been always excellent also in scientific optical instruments.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for answer, Leica is really expensive so I don't wont to make mistake.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Micro-Nikkor 3.5/55 is cheap and the best macro lens I have tried, one lens I will never sell.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:50 pm    Post subject: macro Reply with quote

For close-ups or real macros, keep your money in your pocket and get a cheaper 50/55mm f:2.8/3.5 lens. Less popular brands like Vivitars (or their rebadges) have similar offers. Even if wide open results are not good, in f:8, most of them will give you surprisingly nice results.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must say I had never been fun of macro photography, but last couple of mounts my interests in these field groves. So any advise about lens is worthy. I m using Canon 5D mk3 and more or less I have all the lens I need for my purpose (this statement is not true, we always needs something more Smile. So I decided to go for macro, I found really cheap Sigma 70 2.8, and i got Carl Zeiss Contax 60 2.8. My first idea to go for 100 2.8 L, but I not need IS. So any advise?

Thank you for all advices.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell us what you want to achieve (in terms of what kind of targets you have in mind and what the desired magnification factor should be) and we can then suggest the best way to get there. Besides that there is always a very low budget and also a sophisticated version available. Wink

I've done a lot of macro photography in my life and I can tell you that you can achieve stunning results with almost zero budget as long as you know how to do it. At the end of the day the planned result should be on the first place and not any lens required for that. Actually nearly every lens could be used for macro photography.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SrdJan - I think the only way you can ever know which of these lenses will be better for you is to buy the Leitz lens and use it alongside the one you already have. If you can afford to lay out the money and then spend some time shooting identical comparisons you will be able to judge for yourself how they perform. I'll bet that having done that you'll notice some differences, but will still be unable to say which is "better".

Working at a much lower price level, I have a 105/2.8 Sigma, 90/2.5 SP Tamron and a 100/4 Macro Elmar-R. After more than a year I'm still trying to decide which to keep and which to sell. If you asked "Doctor Stephen" what to do, he would say "Stick with what you've got and save your money for something to extend the scope of your photography". What you already have is about as good as there is Wink


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had Leica-R lens , I never had Zeiss sadly, I sold Leica without any hesitation after test, it was luxury to keep it , if I couldn't make better result with Leica than other cheap macro lenses. Proper technic is more important than lens in macro photography, I have Indonesian friend who use Domiplan Smile and create far better macro shoots than most of us. Keep Zeiss and be very happy you have it.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Srdjan wrote:
I must say I had never been fun of macro photography, but last couple of mounts my interests in these field groves. So any advise about lens is worthy. I m using Canon 5D mk3 and more or less I have all the lens I need for my purpose (this statement is not true, we always needs something more Smile. So I decided to go for macro, I found really cheap Sigma 70 2.8, and i got Carl Zeiss Contax 60 2.8. My first idea to go for 100 2.8 L, but I not need IS. So any advise?


I sold my entire macro collection - Kiron, Nikkor 55/2.8, Tamron 90/2.5, Zuiko 50/3.5, Vivitar 55/2.8, Macro-Tak 50 and 100, and got the 100L and I don't regret one bit. But. I do a little bit of product shooting and fussing with MF when you need to take 200 pictures gets old real quick.


PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and forgot to suggest: instead of buying another lens, concentrate on lightning equipment like a flash set. YongNuo's ring flash (Clone/imitation of Canon MR14) can be a good stating point.


PostPosted: Mon Jun 01, 2015 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tank you for all replays. I need macro lens for product photography and some food photography.


PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is the best for general purpose? (no just macro photo)


PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My best results in macro work have been with tele lenses and extension tubes, or bellows. Also had surprisingly good results with enlarger lenses. I have used komura 75mm to good effect. But my favorite is the pentax 150mm smc 6 x 7 with bellows (150 to pentax 67/ef ef bellows to ef/nex to a7ii). The increased
depth of field with longer FL mitigates one of my pet peeves with macro, paper thin focal depth.. I want most of the ant in focus, not just the first mm of the antenna. Other workarounds for this include macro stacking but I would rather take a good photo to start with than manipulate in post. Just my penny and a half (likely not worth the standard 2 cents worth!)


PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:09 am    Post subject: Re: Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar 60 2.8 vs Leica Macro-Elmar 60 2 Reply with quote

Srdjan wrote:
I have Carl Zeiss Makro-Planar 60 2.8, and I have chance to get Leica Macro-Elmarit-R 60mm 2.8. Dose anyone ever compared these two lenses?

You already have a good macro, I doubt you'll find the differences big enough to justify buying the Leica and selling the lesser of the two, especially since you're just starting out in macro.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember someone recently, I think here, talking about a very valuable tool for product photography being a good tilt and shift lens. Perhaps that would be an area to look at rather than another lens that pretty much does what you can already do?


PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

meanwhile wrote:
I remember someone recently, I think here, talking about a very valuable tool for product photography being a good tilt and shift lens. Perhaps that would be an area to look at rather than another lens that pretty much does what you can already do?


A nice bellows with tilt/shift capabilities might be the better choice. Wink


PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the S-Planar which goes to 1:1. This is a heavy lens but it is the sharpest macro lens I have tried (and I have tried many) at 1:1 and f2.8 (ie wide open). Stopped down there are smaller and lighter lenses that produce just as good results. But if short DOF and macro is your thing then this is the one to get.


PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pontus wrote:
I have the S-Planar which goes to 1:1. This is a heavy lens but it is the sharpest macro lens I have tried (and I have tried many) at 1:1 and f2.8 (ie wide open). Stopped down there are smaller and lighter lenses that produce just as good results. But if short DOF and macro is your thing then this is the one to get.


+1 on that.

From the moment i got the S-Planar i started selling my other macro lenses (Tokina AT-X, Kiron 2.8/105, Panagor 55). At first i thought i'd invest in an AF macro lens, but i'm still quite pleased with the Zeiss! Albeit on my Sony only because of the focus peak feature. I use it for product photography as well.

Some samples for those who don't know the Zeiss:

Miranda Sensomat by René Maly, on Flickr

Rollei 35 Tessar by René Maly, on Flickr

Crashed by René Maly, on Flickr