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PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Gotten a Canon EOS 1Ds Reply with quote

Jesito wrote:
I've just gotten a CANON EOS 1Ds full frame, 11mpix camera, and I'd like to now if someone else has some experiences to share on adapters and so.

My first concerns are about mirror hitting the lenses and compatible adapters.
The 5D is known to need a mirror shaving.
On the other hand my EOS-M42 adapter did not work in a EOS 1D Mark II of a friend, so I'm worried if it will work on the 1Ds.

Any info will be very welcome.

Thanks in advance,

Jes.


It is almost certainly not the adapter that is the problem but the particular lens that is mounted on the adapter. Many lenses work with an adapter on the full-frame Canons - no mirror shaving needed - but some protrude too far into the camera. The shorter the focal length the more chance of a problem, any prime over 100mm seems to be OK as are a great many 50 to 100mm lenses and some wide-angles (notably the Flektogons). The old 1Ds is probably the same.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this is an interesting post. I'll finally wait and save some money in order to buy a 5D , which is by now quite affordable. I want the full frame, cause i think that the crop sensors won't make it for me ... besides having a huge viewfinder on SLR's and going to a smaller one is meh.

So i've read that some lenses are troubles with this body, so if one can help i plane to use those ones, if you can tell by experience if they're usable without troubles cos i don't want to shave a mirror Very Happy

- Helios 44M and 44-2
- CZJ Sonnar 3.5 135mm
- surely a Pancolar 50mm
- Pentax SUper takumar 2/55 mm

optional cos i have RX body
- Contax Planar 1.7/50mm
- Yashica DSB 135mm 2.8
- and a 2.8/85mm Sonnar

Thanx for any infos !
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, New to the forum. i,ve got a canon 300D and a m42 AF adapter, with a couple of lenses
a pentacon 500mm F;8
a helios 70-150mm F:3.8
and a mirage 100-200mm F:5.6.
what mode should my camera be set to and what do I need to adjust?
or anyone have a link to somewhere where it is explained.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Thomas.

Set your 300D on Av or M Mode.
Then set the aperture on your lens, make the focus, adjust the speed to reach the right exposure and shoot.

Maybe you'll have to compensate exposure (over or under expose).

Enjoy ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Olivier, i,ll give it a go today.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olivier wrote:
Hello Thomas.

Set your 300D on Av or M Mode.
Then set the aperture on your lens, make the focus, adjust the speed to reach the right exposure and shoot.

Maybe you'll have to compensate exposure (over or under expose).

Enjoy ! Very Happy


Sometime ago Orio posted an excellent explanation on stop-down metering on the EOS cameras. If I remember correctly; the further the actualy f-value is from the one coded in the adapter, the more the camera overexposes (or underexposes, if the actual f-value is lower than the coded value).

In general; use the histogram!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, I'm new here (and really inexpert)
I have a canon 450d and I was wondernig wich manual lenses I could buy... the problem is that I run really low on money so I was thinking that if I buy some lenses of the same brand at least I have to buy only one adapter.. (maybe it's stupid I don't know) wich brand is easy to find (for example on ebay) and has a lot of different kind of lenses?
(I'm trying to figure out what I'd like, for sure something similar to the canon 50mm 1.8 and maybe a tele and a wide angle)

I don't even know if it's a good idea trying manual lenses since I'm so new to photography, but I think that I will learn someway! I looked in this direction 'cause of the prices!

I'm sorry if my question sounds stupid, but I don't know much about lenses so I'm a bit confused
(sorry also for bad english) Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Saramob and welcome.

I think I can speak for every members here : there are no silly or stupid questions. Smile

I have a Canon 40D.
Look at my signature : you'll find M42 mount, Pk mount, Nikon mount, P6 mount.
For each of these mounts, I have one adapter. So that makes 4.
There are other adapters, such as Exakta and others.

The more easy is to buy a M42 adapter. I would advise to buy an AF confim adapter, that means one with a chip which enables the visor red leds to light on in the focusing screen.
With M42 adapter you have access to a very great number of MF lenses and many are cheap.

For example : very good lenses for relatively cheap (less than the canon ef 1.8/50) :
- the Pentacon 29mm 50mm and 135mm,
- the Helios-44 58mm.

A link to a M42 adapter :
m42 adapter
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi and welcome! Don't worry, your English is great, well done! Smile

Your Canon 450D is ideal for MF lenses because you have a very wide choice you can use. Virtually all lens brands can be mounted with plain adapters because the camera is thinner than most other makes, and the bayonet mount is wider. The only common lens brands that can't be used directly are the old Minolta MD and Canon FD mounts, because they are designed for even thinner cameras. These lenses need to be mounted closer to the film/sensor than the EOS mount allows, but even this can be overcome using "optical" adapters which have an internal correcting lens. Cheap optical adapters can affect the image quality and reduce light transmission.

Most of us here have started with M42 screw mount MF lenses before looking at other types, mainly because they are usually relatively cheap and easily found. If you already own an SLR and lenses of a different make (for instance Pentax, Nikon or Olympus) it makes sense to stick with these to avoid buying too many different adapters, but after a while you'll be bitten by the bug and want to try out something else! Smile

Even though you're low on money at the moment, I don't believe it's a good idea to buy very cheap quality lenses, much better to save up to buy something good. You can find some very high quality M42 lenses under $100, and there are several "hidden gems" we can recommend, which can cost less than half that.

You'll need an M42 to EOS adapter to mount these lenses on your camera. You can find them easily on Ebay, I would recommend you start with a plain one like this:
Click here to see on Ebay
Later you can think about other tyoes and adapters with chips which fool the camera into thinking you have an AF lens, and the camera will beep when you hit correct focus.

Good luck!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the answers!

I'll give a try with the M42!

I found two old lenses of my father:
- tamron 80-210 f/3,8-4 adaptall 2
- konica 40 f/1,8

is it worth using the tamron? since it's already here I'm curious of trying it

I read on various forums that there is no way to use the konica 40mm on my canon 450d, is it impossible even with two adapters (canon-m42 and m42 konica, or something like this)? (I guess not, or many people would do it) Very Happy
I see that somebody put in the middle an extension tube, but he had to glue the back cover of the lens to the tube and make a hole in it (and I think this is useful only for macros, or not?)
http://photoblog.edu-perez.com/2009/01/konica-lens-canon-eos-camera-2.html

I used the konica 40/1.8 on my father's SLR and I like this lens really much! It's a pity that I couldn't use it on my camera
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Saramob

Tamron Adaptall-2 lenses are all good quality, some are especially good, so it's worth keeping this lens. There were two versions of the 80-210, model 03A which has a built-in sliding hood and the later 103A with a separate screwed-in hood. The model number is printed on the aperture ring. The later version is supposed to be better, but I have both and I don't see a lot of difference. You'll find a review of each lens here (click on the Adaptall-2 lenses button)
http://www.adaptall-2.com./

The AD-2 system was an ingenious idea to enable a lens to be used on just about any make of camera by using removable mounts. You change the mount by pressing the shiny chrome button near the aperture ring and turning the mount anti-clockwise. I don't know what mount is fitted to the lens now, but it's likely you'll need a different mount in order to use it on your Canon camera. These are always found on Ebay and cheaper brand new AD-2 mounts for the Canon EOS system are now being made in China etc. Here's an example:
Click here to see on Ebay

As for the Konica lens, I'm afraid it's like the Minolta and Canon FD lenses I mentioned above. It's designed for a much thinner camera than yours, and needs to be about 4mm closer to the film plane than is possible on the 450D. Even if you found an adapter to mount it, you would find you could only focus on subjects up to about 2m from the camera.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

saramob wrote:
thanks for the answers!

.....
I read on various forums that there is no way to use the konica 40mm on my canon 450d, is it impossible even with two adapters (canon-m42 and m42 konica, or something like this)? (I guess not, or many people would do it) Very Happy
I see that somebody put in the middle an extension tube, but he had to glue the back cover of the lens to the tube and make a hole in it (and I think this is useful only for macros, or not?)
http://photoblog.edu-perez.com/2009/01/konica-lens-canon-eos-camera-2.html

I used the konica 40/1.8 on my father's SLR and I like this lens really much! It's a pity that I couldn't use it on my camera


You can use Konica lenses only with micro 4/3 cams like Pana G1/GH1/GF1 or Olympus EP1 etc. or with the original Konica SLR´s like FC-1. FS-1 etc. whereby the 1.8/40 is one of the best Hexanons ever made

Within this thread samples with other Hexanons

http://forum.mflenses.com/panasonic-g1-t20948,start,15.html#220198

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all, new here, as I thought I may aswell go with manual focus lenses, as I always use MF on my new lenses, and I don't have the sort of money to spend on expensive lenses.

I've got a Canon 450D, and I've been looking at old Praktica cameras with M42 lens fittings, along with a few lenses.

Click here to see on Ebay

would these lenses work with my 450D? And how well.

Also, would I find better deals searching for equipment seperately? Or together, as listed.

If seperately, what are good choices for a telephoto lens?

Apologies if some questions are simple, I'm pretty new to photography and young, too. Didn't get the opportunities to use old SLRs in their day.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

benone wrote:
would these lenses work with my 450D? And how well.

Hi benone, welcome. Before you go buying any lenses I would recommend you spend some time reading threads here - look at lens reviews and tests, read opinions and generally get to know the good quality brands from the poor ones. As a basic rule I'd say stick to lenses made by famous camera manufacturers rather than obscure no-names - sometimes you can find a good one, but often they aren't worth spending money on. And don't be afraid to ask any questions about something that catches your eye.

Those lenses on Ebay will work on the 450D OK, any M42 lenses will be fine with an M42>EOS adapter, but I'm glad you didn't buy these. Apart from the Pentacon 1.8/50, the others are cheap rubbish to be honest.

A 135mm would be a good telephoto lens to start with. They are usually good quality and there are so many available, so the prices are low. A good starter for you would be a Carl Zeiss Jena S 3.5/135 or a Takumar 3.5/135 if you can find one to fit your pocket. Otherwise a Meyer or Pentacon 2.8/135 would be great (the same lens, the manufacturer changed their name). All these are M42 mount.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Binone and welcome here.

For a start, follow Peter's wise advice.

Then, look for M42 lenses.
For a cheap and good beginning with your 450D I would suggest Pentacons 1.8/50mm 2.8/135mm and if you're interested in "wide angle" a Pentacon 2.8/29mm.
Also a very good lens which goes for cheap is the Helios-44M 2/58mm.
There's also the Super Takumar 1.8/55mm.
Don't look for cheap zooms. Generally they're not good.

You'll need a m42 to Eos adapter ring.
I suggest you take it with AF chip confirm, which helps to be in focus : your rangefinder red leds light up when you're in focus.

Don't hesitate to ask people here when you find something and wonder wether it is worth while or not.

Beware of fungus and haze. Scratches on lenses generally don't have any effect on the image quality. Fungus and haze are much more annoyable.

Cheers. Smile
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