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gerbenv




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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 12:08 pm    Post subject: Eos m42 converter Reply with quote

Hello i'm kind of a newbee here and i've got an EOS 350D with an M42 adapter and a Takumar 1:1.8/ 55 mm lens. I like it very much but the only problem is that I can't use the Aperturefuntion on the lens. Are there converters which can controll this function?
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

You need an EOS -> M42 adapter with apterture pin flange.

So not like this one (look at inside):



But like this one :


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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you know where I can find one?
i found this on Ebay.
Is this a good one?
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if it is a "good" one, you cannot really tell before you can try it, but it looks like it presses down the pin.

Welcome aboard and enjoy your stay!
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerbenv wrote:
Do you know where I can find one?
i found this on Ebay.
Is this a good one?


That'll do it. 'big_is' is a well known reliable seller on ebay.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the forum. I have a Zuiko adapter from these guys. It works very well and has next to no play. The M42 adapters are usually the most realiable from any seller. It is the easiest to make. Definitely get one with the AF confirm chip if this is your first try at MF lenses on a crop dslr.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if I am wrong, but the 5D mostly have problem with wide angles, right?
Like around and bellow 50mm mostly ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Compatibility list is here - not exhaustive though.

http://www.panoramaplanet.de/comp/

If you check my gear list via the link in my sig, I can tell you which M42 mount lenses out of that list are problematic with my 5D. However, some 5Ds may not have issues - both myself and Orio have 5D bodies and CZJ Flektogon 4/25 lenses, but my 4/25 copy fouls my 5D's mirror, while AFAIK Orio's doesn't.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bob955i wrote:
both myself and Orio have 5D bodies and CZJ Flektogon 4/25 lenses, but my 4/25 copy fouls my 5D's mirror, while AFAIK Orio's doesn't.


Yes, I seem to remember that it didn't - I have to check, I am able to see it from the RAW info, but I need to find the files in my archive.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do remember you commenting on how it had the same or similar IQ and lack of distortion as the 4/20 so I inferred from that, that you had been able to mount the lens on your 5D without issue.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been finding trouble with half my Contax lenses. The rear fin and aperture post is to long.

The 1.4/50AEJ and MMJ, 1.7/50AEJ and MMJ, 2.8/35AEJ, 2.8/28AEJ, 2/100MMG and 35-135MMJ are all good.

The 2.8/28MMJ 2.8/60AEG, 1.4/85AEG, 2.8/135, 2.8/180MMG, and 80-200MMJ all not good.

All the Zuiko's are an easy fit from 21mm-180mm.

Any similar experiences. Will filing ruin future use on Contax film cameras? Should not aye?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Planar 1.4/50 MM via the Fotodiox adapter is fine.

If you don't have a Contax body and don't intend getting one, you may not need to file anything:

Unscrew the three screws securing the mount and lift it off - you should then be able to lift off the plastic fin assembly and refit the mount.

The aperture post is secured by two screws - again you may be able to remove this without filing although I'm not sure if the aperture post is part of the aperture ring click stop assembly.

Whatever you do here, don't lose the tiny ball-bearing that provides the aperture click stops.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the problem lenses the baffle is part of the mount. Machined and quite angry looking like a shark tooth cut in half.
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Epson R D1(s), Bessa L, Bessa R2m, Leica CL, CV 4.5/15, 4/25, 1.4/40, Zeiss ZM 2/35, Yashinon1.8/50, CLE 4/90, Zeiss Opton 4/135 T, Electro GT, Electro GX, Electro CC
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pity about that. Sad

I know I'd be reluctant to file anything myself as I've always preferred, where possible, to make all mods reversible even though I may never fit the lens to it's native camera.
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Medium Format: Mamiya RB67 Pro-S, Pentacon Six TL, Yashica 635
Rangefinder: Rank-Mamiya 4B
Bridge: Minolta DiMage 7i
P&S: Olympus XA-3
Lenses by the following makers:
Carl Zeiss Jena, Carl Zeiss Oberkochen, Hanimex, Mamiya, Meyer Optik Görlitz, Pentacon, Prakticar, Schneider-Kreuznach, Sigma, Super Paragon

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Pity about that.

I know I'd be reluctant to file anything myself as I've always preferred, where possible, to make all mods reversible even though I may never fit the lens to it's native camera.


I know. I'm really torn. I still shoot my film contax even more than the DSLR. They mount on the 40D well enough. I can not even mount the lenses to the camera the tabs protrude into the wall of the mirror box.

@ Orio
What is your experience? Did you file these tabs off?
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Epson R D1(s), Bessa L, Bessa R2m, Leica CL, CV 4.5/15, 4/25, 1.4/40, Zeiss ZM 2/35, Yashinon1.8/50, CLE 4/90, Zeiss Opton 4/135 T, Electro GT, Electro GX, Electro CC
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