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Canon EOS 6D and manual lenses
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got a 6D and have tried my lenses on it.

These work and do not hit the mirror at infinity:

Helios 44M 58/2 M42
Helios 44M-4 58/2 M42
Helios 44-2 58/2 M42
Helios Auto Wide Angle 28/2.8
Sigma Mini Wide 28/2.8 M42
Super-Takumar 50/1.4 M42
Super-Takumar 105/2.8 M42
SMC Takumar 55/2 M42
Pentacon Electric Multi Coated 29/2.8 M42
Pentacon Auto MC 135/2.8 M42
Pentacon 135/2.8 Zebra exakta mount
Jupiter 9 85/2 chrome M42
Jupiter 11 135/4 alu M42
E.Ludwig Meritar 50/2.9 M42
Meyer-Optik Oreston 50/1.8 M42
Auto Chinon Multi-Coated 55/1.7 M42
Auto Chinon 28/2.8 M42
RMC Tokina 28/2.8 M42
Industar 50-2 50/3.5 M42
Nikon Series E 100/2.8 F-mount (probably all other Series E)


These do not work:

Auto Yashinon 50/2 (old version, f=5cm) M42 - mirror locks at infinity during shot
RE. Auto-Topcor 58/1.8 Topcon - with my current big_is Exa-EOS adapter it locks the mirror after the shot is taken. Hopefully a better adapter can solve this issue
Meyer-Optik Lydith zebra 30/3.5 - hits mirror near and at infinity
Meyer-Optik Domiplan zebra 50/2.8 - hits mirror near and at infinity
Mir-1 Grand Prix Brussel 1958 37/2.8 - hits mirror at infinity
Super-Takumar 35/3.5 M42 - hits mirror at infinity


PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:04 pm    Post subject: 2014 Reply with quote

just test a 135mm sonnar 2.8 with a generic XCSOURCE adapter from amazon, works perfect, infinity and no mirror hit and a 50mm 1.7 planar with the same adapter but with a focus confirmation chip, almost perfect, but no infinity!!!!! no mirror hit on my 6d


PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 11:33 pm    Post subject: c/y lenses Reply with quote

Hi everybody ... does anybody could please tell me if my 25 distagon -45 mm -50 mm - 135 mm will work on a canon eos 5 or 6d ?
if yes which is the adapter the lens will work with ?
Will the camera exposure meter work ? will the camera automatically detect the aperture ?
Please let me know something precise , 'cause i would like not buy an expensive camera body and then see that i cannot do anything with my "gold" lenses .
Bye and thanks to everyone of you will answer me !
Marko


PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 25/2.8, 135/2.8 and all variants of the 50mm Planar are fine on the 5D and the 6D. the Tessar 45/2.8 AE works on my 6D for short distances but hits the mirror at longer distances.

The camera will set exposure but you will need to set the aperture yourself on the lens as the camera has no way of controlling a manual lens.

I buy adapters from ebay seller tesarphoto.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok thanks a lot for your reply...
Let me please ask you something more ...
i will set the exposure on the lens by myself but will the camera see that i closed at e.g. f16 ?
Will the camera close the lens when taking a pic ?
in other words will the camera be fully operational with a manual lens or it will work only at f2,8 (base aperture) ?
Please ... i do not want to buy a 6d and waste my money .
Thanks
M.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like with any other manual lens on a Canon camera - you set the aperture on the lens and blades stop down straight away. The camera has no way of doing this itself as Canon cameras only communicate using electronics, which a manual lens doesn't have.

So for example...

1. Set the lens to f/8 (the blades close down straight away)
2. Manually focus the lens (note that the more you stop down, the darker the viewfinder becomes)
3. Shoot

The other way of doing it is:

1. Set the lens to wide open e.g. f/1.4
2. Manually focus the lens
3. Set the lens to f/8 and shoot

Hope this helps.


PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u r GREAT !


PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

by the way if you would like to shoot in aperture priority mode , will the camera through the ttl exposimeter tell you the right exposure ?
my answer is yes but you can certainly tell me more precise ...
thanks
Marko


PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the camera will be able to tell you the correct exposure in A mode. However, from what I read and my own experience when your aperture is small maybe f11 the metering is not spot on so you might have to compensate a bit. The thing is, this 'small aperture' is lens dependent so difficult to give a general figure when this starts


PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First test shot wide open with Olympus OM 24mm f/2.8 on Canon 6D, sweet...



PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all

Just joined the forum

I have the Tak 35mm F3.5 on a Canon 6D and yes it does hit the mirror at infinity

So I used 2 small slivers of printing paper and placed them between the adaptor and the lens flange.

Now its not hitting the mirror and judging by the test photos focus at infinity is correct as aligned on the scale

The tolerance between hitting the mirror and not is miniscule I judge it about a 3rd of a millimetre


PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hay good to know Smile Cheers.


PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to help tromboads

I am using this adaptor for all my Pentax Tak lenses

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008H2I1M2/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I have bought one for each of the Tak lenses I have (many) and they all work really well 9 out of 10 times when you get the green disc focus is correct of course just keep the lens at wide open then stop down in good light, you can actually work this adaptor at mid range apertures in good light quite impressed with this adaptor considering the low cost

I knew there would be a problem with the 35mm but I also knew not all full frame Canons had an issue so I guessed it was a small tolerance problem and not something you had to get a grinder on to.

Lets face it if you have to grind down part of a lens to get it working don't buy that lens for your camera....!

Put a wee piece of paper on each side of the lens flange then screw on the adaptor

Take my word for it works and you get a real class lens working on a full frame canon 6D not sure about the 5D versions though but I expect the tolerances are nearly similar just experiment with different thicknesses of paper till you get the mirror clicking stop free.

The thinner the paper that gets the mirror working the better of course


PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

super takumar 50 1.4 hits the mirror on my 6D


PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:46 am    Post subject: ThX Reply with quote

Thank you so very much for posting info on the Canon 6D and C/Y Zeiss lenses. I have been sweating bullets before my 6D arrives from B&H. Those are what I use the most for video and cinematography set ups. I was so concerned that I checked everywhere for new adapter types, like from Leitax, Fotodiox, Kindai, and others. I'm using the general purpose Fotodiox ones and they been fine for my 60D, but the 6D -being full frame- concerns me. The clearance was an issue on the mkII, and I panicked for this new 6D, but all is well I think. Thx.


PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've updated my original list with my own findings. Will add others' findings to it when I have a bit more time Smile


PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, my Super-Multi-Coated Takumar 50/1.4 hit the mirror on my 6D focusing to infinity (tested with 2 adapters with and without af confirm chip).
Now I'm looking for a good adapter for my BIOTAR 2/58 with exakta mount.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say "mirror hits", are you destroying a 6D mirror each time? The reason I am asking is because I am not sure what to expect. I just bought a K Pk mount for EOS from China, and the stock Pentax K-1000 lens did not work with this adapter on my 6D. The frame was half-way closed in the resulting image. The mirror didn't appear to be broken, though. The adapter didn't really work, however, unless I am doing something wrong.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well my mirror is still in one piece Laughing


PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy So, the mirror doesn't shatter if it has something in the way? I just bought a nice, cheap Vivitar 75-205mm 1:3.8 lens on eBay. It's somewhat heavy, but very slim at the same time. The glass seems to be nice and it definitely works on the 6D. It has a manual aperture setting, so you different kinds of M42 adapters will work on it. I didn't read the full thread, but you guys probably discussed the fact that there are two types of M42 adapters. One is with a very wide rear opening that doesn't cover the aperture pin:
[url]
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-M42-Lens-to-Canon-EOS-6D-70D-550D-50D-60D-40D-5D-7D-Camera-Adapter-Mount/390758951164?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D34ab065defcc40c4a9bab16ae7da27db%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D130711602383[/url]

There is also one with a much smaller rear opening diameter, and it does cover the aperture pin and locks it in manual setting:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/350824297820


PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris_zeel wrote:
These do not work:
Mir-1 Grand Prix Brussel 1958 37/2.8 - hits mirror at infinity


I modified my copy of this lens in order to avoid it hitting the mirror at infinity. On my copy, and I don't know if this applies to all versions of this lens, there's a small semi-circle of metal in the rear end of the lens. It is this metal piece which cause the problem. I simply removed it because it seems to have no function now - perhaps it's for protection or was needed to fit older film cameras? Well, I took a small size screwdriver and used it to carve a thin line digging just about half way through the metal. This procedure made it possible to peel of the metal piece using a pair of tongs by carefully spinning the metal around the tongs.

This used to be one of my favourite manual lenses but I was rather disappointed by the results from the 6D. The far edges seemed noticeabe softer than on my APS-C camera.


PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManualFocus-G, can you please reply with your experience. Are you really saying that the mirror won't break when it strikes protruding lens parts?


PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2015 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaparin wrote:
ManualFocus-G, can you please reply with your experience. Are you really saying that the mirror won't break when it strikes protruding lens parts?


My camera has hit several lenses with no damage. However, I've never tried using a lens which is obviously sticking out much past the adapter.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my 6D today and here are my first reports on this topic:

C/Y Planar 50/1.4 MMJ with a cheap adapter( this one - Click here to see on Ebay) is OK.
Helios 44-2 - MMZ zebra version - prod. 1971-1972 AFAIK is OK.
Zenitar-M 1,7/50 is OK

And here goes my big disappointment:

MC ГЕЛИОС 44-3 (HELIOS 44-3) - prod. 1990(90**** serial) hits the mirror


Last edited by pavel.milev on Thu Jan 29, 2015 11:05 am; edited 1 time in total


PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh well, no worry, your 44-2 works alright Wink