View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7787 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
Expire: 2022-01-01
|
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:21 pm Post subject: Canon. early EOS sticky grip. |
|
|
Lloydy wrote:
I think I have rescued an old Canon EOS 100 with the dreaded sticky grip. This camera was so bad that I held it for as long as it would take to compose and take a shot, unfolded my hand, and the camera was stuck to my fingers. I actually held the camera up just by the sticky horrible mess of the decaying grip as it stuck to my fingers. Which was a shame as the camera is otherwise perfect.
I tried the obvious solutions, lighter fuel, nail polish remover, Goo-Gone, dish washing soap and industrial hand soap. Nothing improved the sticky mess one bit.
Reading on the internet it appears that the 'rubber grip' is not rubber at all, it's a plastic shell with a plastic pseudo rubber cover, and the cover breaks down over time and the components separate. I also read that part of the formula to make this stuff contains a mineral powder, with some complicated chemical name or another. So I thought, why not use a mineral powder to rub on to the surface that would ( hopefully ) absorb the resinous goo and reconstitute itself into the 'rubber' grip? The camera was dead with the crappy grip, so I tried ......chalk.
I chose the darkest colour I could find, blue, ( can you even get black chalk ? ) and crushed a tiny bit. I rubbed it into the grip with my fingers, and used a toothbrush to get it into the texture of the grip. I did this about a 8 or 9 times until it no longer felt sticky. Then I really got to work with the toothbrush until any build up had gone. Then I left it for a day, checked it for stickiness and it was OK. Even if it was a bit blue! But a silicone black shoe polish has restored the colour perfectly. I did this a few days ago and the stickiness hasn't returned, whether it's a long term solution I don't know, but it's made the EOS100 into a nice camera once more.
_________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
philslizzy
Joined: 07 Aug 2012 Posts: 4744 Location: Cheshire, England
|
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
philslizzy wrote:
Nice job dave, I have one of these - fortunately the grip is fine. _________________ Hero in the 'messin-with-cameras-for-the-hell-of-it department'. Official. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Lloydy
Joined: 02 Sep 2009 Posts: 7787 Location: Ironbridge. UK.
Expire: 2022-01-01
|
Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
Lloydy wrote:
Pictures don't describe the horrible mess the grip was in, it looked fine but the goo leaching out of the plastic was horrible. And soap + water didn't shift it from my hand either, I had to use a wet wipe. Which although it cleaned my hand had no effect on the grip at all.
Day three, and it's still not sticky. It'll be for sale in the charity shop next week. _________________ LENSES & CAMERAS FOR SALE.....
I have loads of stuff that I have to get rid of, if you see me commenting about something I have got and you want one, ask me.
My Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/mudplugga/
My ipernity -
http://www.ipernity.com/home/294337 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
|
Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:48 am Post subject: |
|
|
cooltouch wrote:
Good save! I'll have to keep in mind your approach the next time I run into this.
What you encountered was something called "plasticizer migration" and it's where the plasticizer doesn't stay put, but comes to the surface as a slimy, sticky substance. I have this problem with a cord in my Metz 60 CT-1 outfit -- the cord that runs from the flash to the battery pack. I wiped it down, which seemed to take care of most of the issue, but it wouldn't entirely go away, so I just coiled it up and put it into a plastic baggie for storage. Maybe I'll try your dusting if/when I ever use that flash again.
I ran into a similar situation as yours with a metal lens hood for a Sigma mirror I bought recently. I don't know if this was a factory coating or what, but the hood was just covered in this sticky, black, tar-like mess. I tried naphtha -- didn't do any good, then kicked it up a notch and tried acetone -- at least it stirred it around some, but didn't lift it off the hood. Then I was rummaging through some chemicals and came across a degreaser made by the Simple Green folks. Well, I know from experience that Simple Green is an outstanding product for getting rid of all sorts of difficult, caked on situations, so I figured I'd give this a shot. I sprayed it on the hood and it foamed up like crazy, but a wipe with a paper towel insantly removed a large swath of the stuff. So I gave it another application and this time let it sit for the requisite time. Then wiped, and lemme tell ya, that stuff completely cleaned that sticky tar-like stuff off the hood as easy as can be. Remarkable. I am completely sold on this stuff as, not just a degreaser, but a de-anything-er. _________________ Michael
My Gear List: http://michaelmcbroom.com/photo/gear.html
My Gallery: http://michaelmcbroom.com/gallery3/index.php/
My Flickr Page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11308754@N08/albums
My Music: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmcbroom/albums
My Blog: http://michaelmcbroom.com/blogistan/ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
|
Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 5:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
Gardener wrote:
I had an Elan IIe with a sticky grip - alcohol washed the sticky stuff right off. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
Expire: 2016-12-25
|
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
my_photography wrote:
Gardener wrote: |
I had an Elan IIe with a sticky grip - alcohol washed the sticky stuff right off. |
Any specific type of alcohol? _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
Zoom Sigma Zoom 28-85/3.5-4.5
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
Expire: 2016-12-25
|
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 3:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
my_photography wrote:
cooltouch wrote: |
...a degreaser made by the Simple Green folks. Well, I know from experience that Simple Green is an outstanding product for getting rid of all sorts of difficult, caked on situations, so I figured I'd give this a shot. I sprayed it on the hood and it foamed up like crazy, but a wipe with a paper towel insantly removed a large swath of the stuff. So I gave it another application and this time let it sit for the requisite time. Then wiped, and lemme tell ya, that stuff completely cleaned that sticky tar-like stuff off the hood as easy as can be. Remarkable. I am completely sold on this stuff as, not just a degreaser, but a de-anything-er. |
Not to sure which Simple Green product are you referring to? Is it the BBQ stuff or the cleaner or something else? _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
Zoom Sigma Zoom 28-85/3.5-4.5
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
|
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:17 am Post subject: |
|
|
cooltouch wrote:
It's an aerosol can. I don't have it handy so I'll have to go dig it out and read the label. I've probably had this stuff sitting on the shelf for years. I just visited Simple Green's website, and the only aerosols they market now are their Heavy Duty BBQ and Grill Cleaner and their Bike Cleaner and Degreaser. I suspect that either one would do the job. _________________ Michael
My Gear List: http://michaelmcbroom.com/photo/gear.html
My Gallery: http://michaelmcbroom.com/gallery3/index.php/
My Flickr Page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11308754@N08/albums
My Music: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmcbroom/albums
My Blog: http://michaelmcbroom.com/blogistan/ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Gardener
Joined: 22 Sep 2013 Posts: 950 Location: USA
|
Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:25 am Post subject: |
|
|
Gardener wrote:
my_photography wrote: |
Gardener wrote: |
I had an Elan IIe with a sticky grip - alcohol washed the sticky stuff right off. |
Any specific type of alcohol? |
Regular denatured ethanol from home improvement store. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
my_photography
Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 2772 Location: Pearl of the Orient
Expire: 2016-12-25
|
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 2:00 am Post subject: |
|
|
my_photography wrote:
Thanks both Gardener and cooltouch for the reply. I think I will be starting with the denatured alcohol since Simple Green is not easily available here. Furthermore the first thing I will de-glue is a lens, and yes, I have a lens that have sticky stuffs coming out just like the grip. _________________
Zeiss: CJZ Flektogon 20/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 20/4, , CJZ Pentacon 29/2.8, CJZ Flektogon 35/2.4, CJZ Pancolar 50/1.8, Tessar 50/2.8, Biotar 7.5cm/1.5, CJZ Pancolar 80/1.8, CJZ Sonnar 135/3.5, CJZ Pentacon 135/2.8 CJZ Sonnar 200/2.8
Other Germany: Meyer Primoplan 50/1.8, Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8
Takumar: SMC 50/1.4 Super Tak 55/2, Super Tak 85/1.9, S-M-C 135/3.5, Super Tak 150/4
Russian: Zenith 16/2.8, Mir-24M 2/35, Volna-9 50/2.8, Helios 44M (58/2), Helios 44M-3 MC (58/2), Helios 40 (85/1.5), Tair 11A (135/2.8 )
Others: Sears 28/2.8, Sankor 35/2.8, Enna M�nchen Tele-Ennalyt 135/3.5
Zoom Sigma Zoom 28-85/3.5-4.5
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
cooltouch
Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9096 Location: Houston, Texas
|
Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2015 4:24 am Post subject: |
|
|
cooltouch wrote:
Simple Green has a "Global Partners" page at their website:
http://simplegreen.com/global-partners/
Where is the "Pearl of the Orient"? Singapore? Hong Kong? It appears that much, if not all, of the Asian trade is conducted through Simple Green's office in Singapore:
Simple Green Asia Pacific
Representative Office
Orchard Post Office
P.O. Box 266, Singapore, 91234
Phone: +65 6467 0442
Fax: +65 6469 4210
Contact: Fred Koch
If stores stock it where you live, the Singapore Office should know and be able to give you a list. That's part of their job, after all. If no luck, chances are somebody else makes something similar to it. _________________ Michael
My Gear List: http://michaelmcbroom.com/photo/gear.html
My Gallery: http://michaelmcbroom.com/gallery3/index.php/
My Flickr Page: https://www.flickr.com/photos/11308754@N08/albums
My Music: https://soundcloud.com/michaelmcbroom/albums
My Blog: http://michaelmcbroom.com/blogistan/ |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|