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F16SUNSHINE


Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2240 Location: Anacortes Washington
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, C/Y mount cameras are really the best choice for Zeiss fans. If you love beautiful classic styled cams look for the Contax RTSII. It is an all time favorite for many.  |
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7222 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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I am very sorry to hear that somebody stole your M4.
As far as M42 cameras are concerned, I can recommend:
- Spotmatic (now, thanks to Peter, I know what a great cam that is!)
- Zenit EM (very basic, but built like a tank)
- Porst CX6 (a cam that I got for almost nothing, and it seems to be really nice)
- Prakticas go for very little money.
You could also buy a nice EOS film cam (e.g. EOS 50) and adapt the lenses to this one, just like many of us do with their EOS DSLRs. _________________ There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don’t.
"Schnäppchenjäger" | "KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS500, Spotmatic SPII, Yashica-24, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 | Hanimex: 3.5/23; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Kiron: 2/28;70-210 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105; Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/135; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135; Telear3.5/200; Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;2.8/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 1.7/50;2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Petri2.8/28; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; 2.8/135; Weltblick3.5/135; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
Green are the lenses I shoot the most.
More? http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65
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peterqd

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2367 Location: High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Much as I love my Spotmatics (my dream camera in the 60s), I'm fast falling for this new Chinon CE-3 (M42 mount). It's not quite as beautifully crafted but it's nice and solid, several steps up from a Praktica.
The features I like, compared to the Spotmatic, are:
Brighter viewfinder with split image and microprisms
Aperture-priority auto mode
Electronic stepless shutter with speed indicated in viewfinder
Shutter release button lock
2x-½x exposure compensation dial
2 and 4 second exposures
3200ASA (SP is 1600, SPII is 3200)
Exposure memory lock
Viewfinder shutter
Provision for power winder
Hot shoe (SPII has hot shoe)
Battery check light
Aperture closes for depth of field preview by the release button (like the old Prakticas)
Uses available silver oxide batteries
Things I'm not so happy with:
Metering and stop down only works when shutter is cocked
Clonky mirror/shutter, I'm a little concerned about vibration
The first roll of film I tried with the Chinon in auto mode was perfectly exposed. Very happy about this!
 _________________ Lenses: M42 - CZJ 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 3.5/135 - Meyer/Pentacon 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 2.8/135, 4/200
Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
Takumar 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII, SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic III Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G |
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montecarlo


Joined: 04 Apr 2007 Posts: 1491 Location: Romania
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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They look awesome, Peter  _________________ Zenit E , Helios-44 58mm f:2.0 , Tair-11A 135mm f:2.8, Jupiter-9 85mm f:2.0
Porst Reflex TL , Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f:2.4 , Pentacon 50mm f:1.8 , Porst MC 135mm f:2.8
Ricoh XR7, Ricoh KR10, Petri GX-1 , Chinon MC 28mm f:2.8 , Varexon EEK 35mm f:2.8 , smc Pentax-M 50mm f:1.7, Ricoh 50mm f:1.7 , Soligor T 135mm f:2.8 , Chinon MC 200mm f:3.3
Pentax K100D , smc Pentax-DA 18-55 , smc Pentax-FA 80-320 |
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Attila


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 14695 Location: Budapest,Hungary
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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I heard only positive things about Chinon... _________________
Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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F16SUNSHINE


Joined: 20 Aug 2007 Posts: 2240 Location: Anacortes Washington
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Wow The Chinon has a long list of useful features. It is a fine looking camera as well.  _________________ Current Kit
Canon 5D, 40D
Contax 4/18, 1.4/50, 1.4/85, 2.8/85, 2/100, 3.5/100, 2.8/180, Rollei HFT 1.4/35, 1.4/85, Zuiko 2/21, 2/24, 2/28, 2/35, 2/80, Yashica ML 3.5/21, 2.8/24, Helios 40 protype, Trioplan 2.8/100, Tair 11A,
Epson R D1(s), Bessa L, Bessa R2m, Leica CL, CV 4.5/15, 4/25, 1.4/40, Zeiss ZM 2/35, Yashinon1.8/50, CLE 4/90, Zeiss Opton 4/135 T, Electro GT, Electro GX, Electro CC |
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peterqd

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2367 Location: High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Cosmin & Andy. I feel like a cheating husband, playing with the Chinon and leaving my old Spottie at home I do like all the extra features on the Chinon, especially being able to close the aperture with the release button, it's how my old Praktica Nova used to work. But the Spottie is still my real love.
It was quite a find. I actually bought it for the 1.4/50 S-M-C lens (not the one in the pic) - the camera was parts/repair. It looks like it was abandoned after two rolls and forgotten about for 40 years. There's a tiny touch of corrosion on the chrome and the variable resistor for the ASA/speed knob seems unreliable - maybe it's slightly corroded too. But other than that the camera is in absolutely beautiful condition.
It took a few seconds to release the shutter and I've renewed the light seals and installed Jes's resistors for the new batteries. The first shutter curtain was a little sluggish on the first few test shots, so that's been CLA'd too. I've still got to look at the variable resistor - maybe I can clean it but it doesn't look too complicated to replace it. So when that's done and the meter has been calibrated the camera will be in tip-top shape and have a loving owner and user! for many more years.
Apologies to estudleon for commandeering the thread with this. And thanks for helping me decide to stick with M42. _________________ Lenses: M42 - CZJ 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 3.5/135 - Meyer/Pentacon 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 2.8/135, 4/200
Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
Takumar 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII, SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic III Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G |
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estudleon


Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 724 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:18 am Post subject: |
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peterqd
Thanks. And thank very much for all, guys.
Argentina is a little market for cameras and lenses, the sellers sell them in others countrys with better markets. And then I haven't much cameras to see and buy. Ebay can be a option, I bought 2 lenses and all was OK, but the problem is the mail here, in Agentina.
In this circumtances, all the cameras and lenses lovers here have to do a strong effort to continue with enthusiasm. All have problems, I know, and when I take a pic I forget all and be happy.
I will go through my city, once again, and will see the shops.
I will show my news cameras. Again, thanks _________________ M42: tak 3,5/28
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Fuji: , 1,8/55, 1,4 50, 2.2/55, 4/85
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9 |
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Katastrofo


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 4003 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Estudleon, if you want it, I have an Asahi Pentax Spotmatic body I'm not
using.
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estudleon


Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 724 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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[b]Bill[/b]
You are in the first league . THANKS, BILL.
The problem isn't yours or mine, when your spot came in Argentina, the local mail that receive the camera, very probably "lost it"
Well, I will stop to cry.
[b]peterqd[/b]
I see that you have the SMC taK 50/1,8 and the MC pancolar 50/1,8 too.
Which is better for you? _________________ M42: tak 3,5/28
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Fuji: , 1,8/55, 1,4 50, 2.2/55, 4/85
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9 |
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Katastrofo


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 4003 Location: Alabama
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Estudleon, my commiserations!
Bill |
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Orio


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 11793 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to share the pain... they stolen my photo equipment twice.
First time they stolen it together with my car, I had my car parked in a commercial centre with all my photo equipment inside.
Police told me they brought it to Albania but were unable to do anything about it.
Second time they stolen it in London, I was sitting on a bench in a small park between the Victoria Station and Grosvenor Place. It was enough that I was distracted 30 seconds and my photo bag was gone. _________________ _
ХОРИОС-61 ( ώρεος ) : Lens sana in corpore sano
Main Tools:
LENSES: Carl Zeiss, Leitz, Soviet, old Nikkors, others.
DSLR: Canon EOS 5D, 50D. SLR: Contax AX, RX, 167MT; Voigtländer Bessaflex TM; Praktica FX2; Nikon FM2, F70.
RANGEFINDERS: Contax G2, Kiev-4, Voigtlaender Bessa-T, Canonette QL17. MEDIUM FORMAT: Pentacon 6, Zeiss Super Ikonta, Agfa Record II.
Read Full List HERE
www.timelessphotography.eu
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peterqd

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 2367 Location: High Wycombe, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| estudleon wrote: | | I see that you have the SMC taK 50/1,8 and the MC pancolar 50/1,8 too. Which is better for you? |
This isn't easy to answer as I haven't used the Takumar 1.8/55 very much. A very quick bookshelf test 18 monts ago put it below the Pancolar, but I'm beginning to think it deserves looking at again now I have a camera waiting for it. On the 400D I preferred 50mm to 55mm.
I did a better comparison between the Pancolar and a Super-Tak 1.4/50 (with the Thorium element) but I can't find the pics now. I remember it was very difficult to find any difference in resolution and bokeh, and the colours are very similar too. I like the handling of the bigger Pancolar a little better and the Tak doesn't stop down fully on my adapter so I have to use the A-M switch. I'll let you know about the 1.8/55 when I've given it a run. _________________ Lenses: M42 - CZJ 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 3.5/135 - Meyer/Pentacon 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 2.8/135, 4/200
Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
Takumar 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII, SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic III Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G |
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estudleon


Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 724 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Katastrofo
Thanks. Regards.
Orio.
I'm so sorry.
peterqd
Thanks. Regards. _________________ M42: tak 3,5/28
CZJ: 4/20, 2,4/35, 1,8/50, 1,8/50 aus jena, 3,5/135MC, Pentacon 1,8/50
Fuji: , 1,8/55, 1,4 50, 2.2/55, 4/85
Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9 |
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Poolhall


Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 147 Location: Howe Bridge, England
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Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Estudleon got a Praktica TL3 (uk version of TL1000) if you want it solid enough and takes any m42 lens _________________ Digital: Pentax and Samsung Dslr's
Film: Pentax and Yashica's and a Minox 35
Lenses: Mostly M42 Pentacon and Russian, Some Yashica,Pentax,Ricoh,and some AF. |
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