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F16SUNSHINE



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, C/Y mount cameras are really the best choice for Zeiss fans. Very Happy If you love beautiful classic styled cams look for the Contax RTSII. It is an all time favorite for many. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am very sorry to hear that somebody stole your M4. Sad

As far as M42 cameras are concerned, I can recommend:
- Spotmatic (now, thanks to Peter, I know what a great cam that is!)
- Zenit EM (very basic, but built like a tank)
- Porst CX6 (a cam that I got for almost nothing, and it seems to be really nice)
- Prakticas go for very little money.

You could also buy a nice EOS film cam (e.g. EOS 50) and adapt the lenses to this one, just like many of us do with their EOS DSLRs.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I love my Spotmatics (my dream camera in the 60s), I'm fast falling for this new Chinon CE-3 (M42 mount). It's not quite as beautifully crafted but it's nice and solid, several steps up from a Praktica.

The features I like, compared to the Spotmatic, are:
Brighter viewfinder with split image and microprisms
Aperture-priority auto mode
Electronic stepless shutter with speed indicated in viewfinder
Shutter release button lock
2x-½x exposure compensation dial
2 and 4 second exposures
3200ASA (SP is 1600, SPII is 3200)
Exposure memory lock
Viewfinder shutter
Provision for power winder
Hot shoe (SPII has hot shoe)
Battery check light
Aperture closes for depth of field preview by the release button (like the old Prakticas)
Uses available silver oxide batteries

Things I'm not so happy with:
Metering and stop down only works when shutter is cocked
Clonky mirror/shutter, I'm a little concerned about vibration

The first roll of film I tried with the Chinon in auto mode was perfectly exposed. Very happy about this!


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Lenses: M42 - CZJ 2.8/20, 2.4/35, 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 3.5/135 - Meyer/Pentacon 1.8/50, 2.8/50, 2.8/135, 4/200
Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
Takumar 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII, SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They look awesome, Peter Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard only positive things about Chinon...
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow Shocked The Chinon has a long list of useful features. It is a fine looking camera as well. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Cosmin & Andy. I feel like a cheating husband, playing with the Chinon and leaving my old Spottie at home Embarassed I do like all the extra features on the Chinon, especially being able to close the aperture with the release button, it's how my old Praktica Nova used to work. But the Spottie is still my real love.

It was quite a find. I actually bought it for the 1.4/50 S-M-C lens (not the one in the pic) - the camera was parts/repair. It looks like it was abandoned after two rolls and forgotten about for 40 years. There's a tiny touch of corrosion on the chrome and the variable resistor for the ASA/speed knob seems unreliable - maybe it's slightly corroded too. But other than that the camera is in absolutely beautiful condition.

It took a few seconds to release the shutter Smile and I've renewed the light seals and installed Jes's resistors for the new batteries. The first shutter curtain was a little sluggish on the first few test shots, so that's been CLA'd too. I've still got to look at the variable resistor - maybe I can clean it but it doesn't look too complicated to replace it. So when that's done and the meter has been calibrated the camera will be in tip-top shape and have a loving owner and user! for many more years.

Apologies to estudleon for commandeering the thread with this. And thanks for helping me decide to stick with M42.
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Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
Takumar 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII, SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
Rangefinder: Zorki-4, Beauty Light-o-matic III Medium Format: Yashica-Mat 124G
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peterqd

Thanks. And thank very much for all, guys.

Argentina is a little market for cameras and lenses, the sellers sell them in others countrys with better markets. And then I haven't much cameras to see and buy. Ebay can be a option, I bought 2 lenses and all was OK, but the problem is the mail here, in Agentina.

In this circumtances, all the cameras and lenses lovers here have to do a strong effort to continue with enthusiasm. All have problems, I know, and when I take a pic I forget all and be happy.

I will go through my city, once again, and will see the shops.

I will show my news cameras. Again, thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estudleon, if you want it, I have an Asahi Pentax Spotmatic body I'm not
using.

Bill
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[b]Bill[/b]

You are in the first league Very Happy Very Happy . THANKS, BILL.

The problem isn't yours or mine, when your spot came in Argentina, the local mail that receive the camera, very probably "lost it" Sad Crying or Very sad


Well, I will stop to cry.


[b]peterqd[/b]

I see that you have the SMC taK 50/1,8 and the MC pancolar 50/1,8 too.

Which is better for you?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estudleon, my commiserations!

Bill
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to share the pain... they stolen my photo equipment twice.

First time they stolen it together with my car, I had my car parked in a commercial centre with all my photo equipment inside.
Police told me they brought it to Albania but were unable to do anything about it.

Second time they stolen it in London, I was sitting on a bench in a small park between the Victoria Station and Grosvenor Place. It was enough that I was distracted 30 seconds and my photo bag was gone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

estudleon wrote:
I see that you have the SMC taK 50/1,8 and the MC pancolar 50/1,8 too. Which is better for you?

This isn't easy to answer as I haven't used the Takumar 1.8/55 very much. A very quick bookshelf test 18 monts ago put it below the Pancolar, but I'm beginning to think it deserves looking at again now I have a camera waiting for it. On the 400D I preferred 50mm to 55mm.

I did a better comparison between the Pancolar and a Super-Tak 1.4/50 (with the Thorium element) but I can't find the pics now. I remember it was very difficult to find any difference in resolution and bokeh, and the colours are very similar too. I like the handling of the bigger Pancolar a little better and the Tak doesn't stop down fully on my adapter so I have to use the A-M switch. I'll let you know about the 1.8/55 when I've given it a run.
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Russian - J9, J21, J37A, M1v, M24m, I50-2, H44m-4 Vega12
Takumar 3.5/28, 3.5/35, 1.4/50, 1.8/55, 1.9/85, 3.5/135 - Vivitar 2.8/28
K-mount : Pentax-M 2.8/28, 1.7/50 - Tamron zooms :SP28-80, SP35-80, SP60-300, 80-210
DSLR:Canon 400D 35mm SLR: Pentax Spotmatic SP, SPII, SPF, ESII, K2, ME Super, P30 - Chinon CE-3 - Minolta XG-M - Praktica Nova 1B, PLC2
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Katastrofo
Thanks. Regards.

Orio.

I'm so sorry.

peterqd

Thanks. Regards.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Estudleon got a Praktica TL3 (uk version of TL1000) if you want it solid enough and takes any m42 lens
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