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wolan
Joined: 30 Jun 2015 Posts: 576 Location: Zurich
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 1:21 pm Post subject: Biotar 75mm f1.5 vs Helios 40-2-N |
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wolan wrote:
Hi
I would like to buy one of the two lenses, either the Biotar 75mm f1.5 or the Helios 40-2-N.
Now, the Biotar is said to have a better IQ then the Helios, but it is much more expensive.
Since their rendering is rather similar, at least WO, (the Helios having a smoother and swirlier bokeh, but the Biotar being sharper) the questions is: is the Biotar worth the extra money?
Judging from the comparison here: http://www.deep-life.ru/test-12/index.htm, I think the answer is no.
I would like to have your opinion.
Thanks. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/149089857@N03/ |
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
Having seen the comparison of the posted link my answer is no as well.
Furthermore I don't like nervous and swirly bokeh and that's why I am more than happy with my Minolta AF 85mm/F1.4 instead. So I won't buy any of these lenses regardless the price.
If you like that kind of swirly bokeh then maybe a cheap Helios 44 is good enough. This lens renders quite similar. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
It depends, here are some using my slim postwar Biotar 7.5cm lens:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums/72157677615910223
My series of shots "Enchanted Forest" was done with it. None were swirly.
http://forum.mflenses.com/enchanted-forest-with-biotar-75mm-t76926,highlight,%2Benchanted.html
It is a lovely sharp lens with creamy bokeh. About any lens can be swirly and stuff,
it quite depends in whose hands it is
I don't really like this kind of deadbeat judgemental disqualifying comments,
rather than the demonstrated ability to get the best out of any lens, especially
from someone who doesn't even have or have had the specific lens _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2017 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Ditto Klaus!
I have a Biotar 75, and I admit I don't seem to have what it takes to get the best from this thing. Its certainly more than sharp enough, but can I use it where its clearly better than, for instance, a Nikkor 85/1.8? Some people can tell, but I can't.
Or are any of these 85mm clearly better for their purpose than any standard, cheap 50/1.4? In some peoples hands, clearly yes, but the choice of lens is vastly less important than the photographer, the situation, the model, the lighting, and for that matter the purpose of the photograph. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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Lightshow
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 3669 Location: Calgary
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: |
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Lightshow wrote:
I have the Meopta Meostigmat 70/1.4 projector lens, it has a similar formula, I like it because it has the same rendering, but is much smaller, it has reduced my desire for either the Zeiss or Helios, it's only weakness is the lack of an aperture system.
I desire the thin Zeiss version more than the fat Zeiss or the Helios 40-2, I really want a nice copy of the silver 40 with the red P to go with my 44 red P _________________ A Manual Focus Junky...
One photographers junk lens is an artists favorite tool.
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:34 am Post subject: |
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tb_a wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
I don't really like this kind of deadbeat judgemental disqualifying comments,
rather than the demonstrated ability to get the best out of any lens, especially
from someone who doesn't even have or have had the specific lens |
You don't like my comment. That's fair enough.
However, I seriously looked into this subject already some time ago and decided not to buy any of those lenses, particularly because of the (for my taste) not so nice bokeh rendering. Especially the Biotar which was certainly a very unique and great lens when it was introduced 1938 is nowadays more regarded as a collectors item hence the pricing is already in a ridiculous range for an nice copy. The price of the Helios is OK for the value you get and it's still available brand new. And yes, for playing around with that kind of bokeh rendering I own a couple of Helios 44 (Russian Biotar copy) and that's good enough for me. In the range of 75 to 85 mm I own some other lenses which I simply prefer more, particularly when I put the pricing also into consideration (what the OP definitely was asking for).
For the OP it may also be of interest that you are using your Biotar on a MFT sensor, i.e. you are only using the "sweetest spot" of the lens which is certainly a big advantage compared to the usage on a FF camera. That would have been nice and fair to mention from your side when you stated that this lens is "lovely sharp". On FF this lens is optimal when stopped down to F8. Stephan from Artaphot explains it quite good in his article here: http://artaphot.ch/images/Technik/Zeiss/Planar-Biotar/FS143_History_ZeissPlanarBiotar_150dpi.pdf and in your thread about the "enchanted forest" ("A very small central spot - maybe 8mm diameter - is quite sharp even at f2").
To call my opinion as a "deadbeat comment" is obviously a little overreaction of a proud Biotar owner. _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Biotar is a Ferrari Helios is a Toyota both are a nice car and bring you from A to B choice what you wallet allow Now I have to sell my entire collection include many Biotars this is fine I am happy with a Samyang 85mm 1.4 and Appollo 75mm f1.4 for swirly thing . So which one is better what you have
I had several years both lens parallel, I never felt in love with Helios , if I have a choice I always choice to shoot Zeiss, mostly Planar 85mm f1.4 Biotar did come after, on Ebay now you can find Planar for less than 400 USD.
Today I did try first time Samyang 85mm I was really , really happy with it and cost was 70 USD .. LOL because of a scratch on front. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Biotar is a Ferrari Helios is a Toyota both are a nice car and bring you from A to B choice what you wallet allow Now I have to sell my entire collection include many Biotars this is fine I am happy with a Samyang 85mm 1.4 and Appollo 75mm f1.4 for swirly thing . So which one is better what you have
I had several years both lens parallel, I never felt in love with Helios , if I have a choice I always choice to shoot Zeiss, mostly Planar 85mm f1.4 Biotar did come after, on Ebay now you can find Planar for less than 400 USD.
Today I did try first time Samyang 85mm I was really , really happy with it and cost was 70 USD .. LOL because of a scratch on front. |
Yes, I have the same feelings as Attila.
You might like to consider the Samyang 85mm f1.4.
It sells for less (brand new) than the other two lenses and also comes with a warranty.
Happy hunting
Tom |
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Biotar is a Ferrari Helios is a Toyota both are a nice car and bring you from A to B choice what you wallet allow Now I have to sell my entire collection include many Biotars this is fine I am happy with a Samyang 85mm 1.4 and Appollo 75mm f1.4 for swirly thing . So which one is better what you have
I had several years both lens parallel, I never felt in love with Helios , if I have a choice I always choice to shoot Zeiss, mostly Planar 85mm f1.4 Biotar did come after, on Ebay now you can find Planar for less than 400 USD.
Today I did try first time Samyang 85mm I was really , really happy with it and cost was 70 USD .. LOL because of a scratch on front. |
Yes, I have the same feelings as Attila.
You might like to consider the Samyang 85mm f1.4.
It sells for less (brand new) than the other two lenses and also comes with a warranty.
Happy hunting
Tom |
I have Samyang you did miss it or my English wasn't clear. I did try out today and I am very happy with it. I just sold my last Helios 40 a few days before. My Samyang cost was only 70 USD.. _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:01 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Attila wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
Attila wrote: |
Biotar is a Ferrari Helios is a Toyota both are a nice car and bring you from A to B choice what you wallet allow Now I have to sell my entire collection include many Biotars this is fine I am happy with a Samyang 85mm 1.4 and Appollo 75mm f1.4 for swirly thing . So which one is better what you have
I had several years both lens parallel, I never felt in love with Helios , if I have a choice I always choice to shoot Zeiss, mostly Planar 85mm f1.4 Biotar did come after, on Ebay now you can find Planar for less than 400 USD.
Today I did try first time Samyang 85mm I was really , really happy with it and cost was 70 USD .. LOL because of a scratch on front. |
Yes, I have the same feelings as Attila.
You might like to consider the Samyang 85mm f1.4.
It sells for less (brand new) than the other two lenses and also comes with a warranty.
Happy hunting
Tom |
I have Samyang you did miss it or my English wasn't clear. I did try out today and I am very happy with it. I just sold my last Helios 40 a few days before. My Samyang cost was only 70 USD.. |
Yes, your english is very good Attila.
I was agreeing with you.
Samyang is a very good alternative
Tom |
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calvin83
Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7553 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:28 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Option:1
Get a cheap but heavy Helios first. Sell it and get a Biotar if you don't like it.
Option:2
Get something else if you can't decide it.
Option:3
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 9:58 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Admittedly I have two slim Biotars 75mm (which I use ever so often and one is for sale actually) and also have the Helios 40-2 (which I hardly ever use) and aside from that have many, many other such lenses in my collection, which I "proudly own". What I really like is the craftsmanship and the optical engineering which went into them, aside from their performance they show in using them (on my mft camera bodies), hence why I have so many different ones.
What my pledge is, to not just look at the prominent aspect a lens has and not to put them into boxes like "bubble maker", "swirler", but to see the many possibilities about any of them has _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
There is a lens in the 75mm length that is cheap and superb - the Fujinon-TV 1.8/75 in c mount. I doubt a 2000usd Leica Summi-something is better, that's how good the Fujinon is. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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wolan
Joined: 30 Jun 2015 Posts: 576 Location: Zurich
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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wolan wrote:
kds315* wrote: |
Admittedly I have two slim Biotars 75mm (which I use ever so often and one is for sale actually) and also have the Helios 40-2 (which I hardly ever use) and aside from that have many, many other such lenses in my collection, which I "proudly own". What I really like is the craftsmanship and the optical engineering which went into them, aside from their performance they show in using them (on my mft camera bodies), hence why I have so many different ones.
What my pledge is, to not just look at the prominent aspect a lens has and not to put them into boxes like "bubble maker", "swirler", but to see the many possibilities about any of them has |
I understand your point of view and agree with you. I have the Nikon 85mm f1.4, which is a super lens, probably one of the best 85mm around both for its optical performance and artistic rendering.
I am happy with it, but I am looking at the Helios / Biotar exactly because of their swirl and "bubble" bokeh, which I do not get with the Nikon. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/149089857@N03/ |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
wolan wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
Admittedly I have two slim Biotars 75mm (which I use ever so often and one is for sale actually) and also have the Helios 40-2 (which I hardly ever use) and aside from that have many, many other such lenses in my collection, which I "proudly own". What I really like is the craftsmanship and the optical engineering which went into them, aside from their performance they show in using them (on my mft camera bodies), hence why I have so many different ones.
What my pledge is, to not just look at the prominent aspect a lens has and not to put them into boxes like "bubble maker", "swirler", but to see the many possibilities about any of them has |
I understand your point of view and agree with you. I have the Nikon 85mm f1.4, which is a super lens, probably one of the best 85mm around both for its optical performance and artistic rendering.
I am happy with it, but I am looking at the Helios / Biotar exactly because of their swirl and "bubble" bokeh, which I do not get with the Nikon. |
Then get the Helios 40-2 is money is an issue; if not, get the Biotar 75mm (personally I would recommend the slim afterwar version, as it is sharper and easier to handle) _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 57849 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Attila wrote:
wolan wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
Admittedly I have two slim Biotars 75mm (which I use ever so often and one is for sale actually) and also have the Helios 40-2 (which I hardly ever use) and aside from that have many, many other such lenses in my collection, which I "proudly own". What I really like is the craftsmanship and the optical engineering which went into them, aside from their performance they show in using them (on my mft camera bodies), hence why I have so many different ones.
What my pledge is, to not just look at the prominent aspect a lens has and not to put them into boxes like "bubble maker", "swirler", but to see the many possibilities about any of them has |
I understand your point of view and agree with you. I have the Nikon 85mm f1.4, which is a super lens, probably one of the best 85mm around both for its optical performance and artistic rendering.
I am happy with it, but I am looking at the Helios / Biotar exactly because of their swirl and "bubble" bokeh, which I do not get with the Nikon. |
Pretty inexpensive swirly option on APS-C Kodak Cine Ektar 63mm f2.0 _________________ -------------------------------
Items on sale on Ebay
Sony NEX-7 Carl Zeiss Planar 85mm f1.4, Minolta MD 35mm f1.8, Konica 135mm f2.5, Minolta MD 50mm f1.2, Minolta MD 250mm f5.6, Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8
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iangreenhalgh1
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Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
wolan wrote: |
kds315* wrote: |
Admittedly I have two slim Biotars 75mm (which I use ever so often and one is for sale actually) and also have the Helios 40-2 (which I hardly ever use) and aside from that have many, many other such lenses in my collection, which I "proudly own". What I really like is the craftsmanship and the optical engineering which went into them, aside from their performance they show in using them (on my mft camera bodies), hence why I have so many different ones.
What my pledge is, to not just look at the prominent aspect a lens has and not to put them into boxes like "bubble maker", "swirler", but to see the many possibilities about any of them has |
I understand your point of view and agree with you. I have the Nikon 85mm f1.4, which is a super lens, probably one of the best 85mm around both for its optical performance and artistic rendering.
I am happy with it, but I am looking at the Helios / Biotar exactly because of their swirl and "bubble" bokeh, which I do not get with the Nikon. |
For bubble bokeh, get any triplet or tessar and modify it by increasing the spacing between the front two elements a couple of mm, the more you increase the distance, the more pronounced the bubbles become. _________________ I don't care who designed it, who made it or what country it comes from - I just enjoy using it! |
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Marek
Joined: 13 Apr 2014 Posts: 903 Location: In the heart of Europe
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Marek wrote:
Yes, it is. Buy Biotar.
Biotar is way lighter, more compact, more sexy, easier to work with lens of a great name/history.
Helios is just a weaker and copied also-run. Never liked that poor people's Biotar too, just as Attila mentions.
Wartime slim is broadly commented to be the best ever, but for collecting reasons I have chosen to own/keep a prewar Exa one. That one is really lighweight. _________________ Angry young man !
Flickr | Juzaphoto | Ebay sales
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:27 am Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
Marek wrote: |
Yes, it is. Buy Biotar.
Biotar is way lighter, more compact, more sexy, easier to work with lens of a great name/history.
Helios is just a weaker and copied also-run. Never liked that poor people's Biotar too, just as Attila mentions.
Wartime slim is broadly commented to be the best ever, but for collecting reasons I have chosen to own/keep a prewar Exa one. That one is really lighweight. |
_________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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BigShotPhotos
Joined: 20 Aug 2015 Posts: 6 Location: Cairns QLD, Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:13 am Post subject: The History of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f/1.5 |
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BigShotPhotos wrote:
Hello, I have written a definitive history of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f/1.5
https://www.casualphotophile.com/2019/01/30/carl-zeiss-jena-biotar-75mm-f15-bokeh-king/
If anybody has anything to add, or make suggestions please contact me. I spent months researching this, and dealing with experts like the Zeiss Historica Society, Marco Cavina and etc, but I'm always happy to learn any more history about the lens.
I also have a special Instagram page devoted just to the lens, and anybody with nice shots taken with the lens I am happy to publish with links back to your page.
https://www.instagram.com/biotar75mm _________________ Film Cameras: Zeiss Ikon Contax D, Minolta x700, Chinon Memotron, Zeiss Ikon Symbolica (first version), Polaroid Big Shot (owned by Andy Warhol), Polaroid SX-70 Sonnar 24k Gold employee gifted, Polaroid SLR 690, Fuji Instax 500AF, Fujica Compact Deluxe,
Lens Collection: Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 58mm f/2 17 blade black paint, Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f/2.8, Minolta MC Rokkor-PG 58mm f/1.2 , Minolta MD 35-70 mm f/3.5 constant aperture Macro, Minolta MD Rokkor Zoom 24-50mm f/4 |
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wolan
Joined: 30 Jun 2015 Posts: 576 Location: Zurich
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:14 am Post subject: Re: The History of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f/1.5 |
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wolan wrote:
BigShotPhotos wrote: |
Hello, I have written a definitive history of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f/1.5
https://www.casualphotophile.com/2019/01/30/carl-zeiss-jena-biotar-75mm-f15-bokeh-king/
If anybody has anything to add, or make suggestions please contact me. I spent months researching this, and dealing with experts like the Zeiss Historica Society, Marco Cavina and etc, but I'm always happy to learn any more history about the lens.
I also have a special Instagram page devoted just to the lens, and anybody with nice shots taken with the lens I am happy to publish with links back to your page.
https://www.instagram.com/biotar75mm |
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
Expire: 2021-03-09
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:41 am Post subject: Re: The History of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f/1.5 |
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kds315* wrote:
BigShotPhotos wrote: |
Hello, I have written a definitive history of the Carl Zeiss Jena Biotar 75mm f/1.5
https://www.casualphotophile.com/2019/01/30/carl-zeiss-jena-biotar-75mm-f15-bokeh-king/
If anybody has anything to add, or make suggestions please contact me. I spent months researching this, and dealing with experts like the Zeiss Historica Society, Marco Cavina and etc, but I'm always happy to learn any more history about the lens.
I also have a special Instagram page devoted just to the lens, and anybody with nice shots taken with the lens I am happy to publish with links back to your page.
https://www.instagram.com/biotar75mm |
Welcome here Cheyenne! Wonderful how you put all those pieces of historical information together!! _________________ Klaus - Admin
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
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Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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sergtum
Joined: 14 Nov 2016 Posts: 735
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56 DIN
Joined: 24 Apr 2010 Posts: 1656 Location: Germany Erbach /ODW
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56 DIN wrote:
@ bigshotphotos _________________ Thomas
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