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Attila
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Best plan !
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Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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Orio
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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The difficult/slower part of the plan could be to find a Distagon 25 at 150 Euros, if you can't, you can safely go with the Yashica ML 24 which is an excellent lens that holds comparison with Distagon.
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Attila
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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And I have one on sale  ML 24 Yashica
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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F16SUNSHINE
Joined: 20 Aug 2007
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Location: Anacortes Washington
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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It is nice to experiment with different lenses with lesser price and unknown quality. In my experience it is best to do this when you already own a quality stable of lenses. I fully endorse Orio and Attila. Buy the best you can afford. Then if you want to experiment you will have some benchmarks for any future purchases 
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naplam
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:20 am Post subject: Yashica ML |
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| Attila wrote: | | And I have one on sale ML 24 Yashica |
Hi Attila,
Maybe I'm interested. For how much are you selling it?
Regards,
Alvaro
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Click here to see on Ebay
You can see on above link, thanks!
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 7232
Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I will also play! Fun game!!
But I need some more time, since I am working at the moment.
(BTW: messages removed, as requested.)
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Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS500, Spotmatic SPII, Yashica-24, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 | Hanimex: 3.5/23; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Kiron: 2/28;70-210 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105; Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/135; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135; Telear3.5/200; Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;2.8/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 1.7/50;2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Petri2.8/28; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; 2.8/135; Weltblick3.5/135; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
Green are the lenses I shoot the most.
More? http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65
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LucisPictor
Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Posts: 7232
Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Best lenses (a kind of a survey) |
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| Pedro Claro wrote: | I'd like to know which are your favourite lenses in the following approximate focal lengths (FLs):
A - <24mm
B - 24/28mm
C - 35mm
D - 50mm
E - 85/105mm
F - 135mm
(I'll ask about longer lenses later as they are not my priority). For each FL, 4 'categories':
#1 - Simply the best (reasonably priced) - these are the best performers on each FL and usually produce the best images, but are also fast lenses and can offer some 'magic'. I'll have to establish a maximum average street price (around 200€/150£/US$300), but if there's an outstanding lens a little more expensive, feel free to add it to the list.
#2 - Second best choices - these are still very good performers that are either slower lenses or have minor performance 'problems' (soft wide open or soft borders, light colour cast) or simply are not as superb as #1 lenses. They must be noticeably less expensive than similar #1 lenses.
#3 - Cheap lenses - we're talking about real bargains here; good performers for a very small amount of money (say, ~20€/15£/US$30). They can be slow lenses, and have some performance 'problems', but still able to deliver good images.
#4 - Special lenses - here we can put either lenses with 'special abilities' (very good macro performance, soft focus...) or lenses that have strong and eventually desirable caracteristics (excellent bokeh, in spite of some softness; saturated yet natural colours).
Who wants to play? |
Well, lunch break...
A1: Nikkor UD 3.5/20; Olympus Zuiko 3.5/18 (but this one is far beyond the price limit.)
A2: Vivitar 3.5/17
A3: Cosina 3.8/20 (but you won't get that one under €50,- - actually, I think there is no lens in this category that comes cheaper.)
A4: ?
24mm (There is a big difference between 24 and 28mm, so I need to separate this group.)
B1: Nikkor 2.8/24 & Pentax SMC 2.8/24
B2: Tamron 2.5/24
B3: Hanimex 3.5/23
B4: ?
28mm
B1: Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/28 (But I do not own it, have just tried it once.)
B2: Vivitar 2.0/28 & Olympus Zuiko 3.5/28
B3: Vivitar 2.8/28 (Still a very good lens!)
B4: Petri 2.8/28 Macro (Very good macro performance)
C1: Leica Elmarit.R 2.8/35 & Nikkor 2.0/35
C2: MIR-1b 2.8/37
C3: Soligor 2.8/35
C4: ?
D1: Nikkor-S.C 1.2/55
D2: Asahi Takumar 1.4/50 or Rollei Planar 1.8/50 ... (many, many more...)
D3: SMC Pentax-M 1.7/50 or Helios-44-2 2.0/58
D4: Volna-9 2.8/50 Macro (!)
E1: Nikkor 1.8/85
E2: Asahi Takumar 2.8/105
E3: Hanimex 4/100
E4: Jupiter-9 2.0/85 (Amazing difference between f2.0, almost a soft lens, and f2.8 )
F1: Leica Elmarit-R 2.8/135 (But I do not own it.)
F2: Nikkor 3.5/135 or CZJ Sonnar 4/135 or Tamron 2.5/135 or Tair-11 or Zuiko 3.5/135 or...
F3: Jupiter-37 3.5/135
F4: Any 1.8/135 lens...
So far, my lists...
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There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don’t.
"Schnäppchenjäger" | "KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS500, Spotmatic SPII, Yashica-24, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 | Hanimex: 3.5/23; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Kiron: 2/28;70-210 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105; Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/135; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135; Telear3.5/200; Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;2.8/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 1.7/50;2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Petri2.8/28; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; 2.8/135; Weltblick3.5/135; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
Green are the lenses I shoot the most.
More? http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic.php?t=65
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padiej
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Location: AUSTRIA - Burgenland
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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A - <24mm Tokina 17mm
B - 24/28mm Pentax Takumar 28/3,5
C - 35mm pentax SMC M 35/3,5
D - 50mm Zeiss Ultron 50/1,8, Pentax Takumar 55/1,8, Jena T50/2,8
E - 85/105mm Pentax SMC M100/2,8
F - 135mm Zeiss Sonnar 135/3,5
These are my best lenses
regards Peter
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naplam
Joined: 22 Mar 2007
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Location: Spain
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Attila wrote: | | You can see on above link, thanks! |
A bit expensive for my mflenses budget, I'll go for a 28mm i think. Your copy looks gorgeous 
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Attila
Joined: 24 Feb 2007
Posts: 14709
Location: Budapest,Hungary
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Okay, 28mm price is really low. This price also if you compare with quality.I guess I will take off and keep this lens to own purposes.
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version
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