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Oldhand
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 Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:19 am Post subject: Auto Tamron 2.8/28 |
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Oldhand wrote:
It is not very often that I get the opportunity to borrow a lens from my son, but he offered me one of his for an outing that LOML and I did today.
It is one of his latest acquisitions and he was doing me a big favour by lending it to me.
I have had a couple of lenses in for repair down at Taree, and they were ready for collection.
A good excuse for a day out.
With the trusty K-10D and the Auto Tamron in tow, we had a marvellous day.
Here is the lens:
and here is what it can do:
Happy days
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Gorgeous! Was that a single shot or stitched?
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| Gorgeous! Was that a single shot or stitched? |
Mucho Gratias
One single shot reduced to 16:9.
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guardian
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Auto Tamron 2.8/28 |
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guardian wrote:
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It is not very often that I get the opportunity to borrow a lens from my son, but he offered me one of his for an outing that LOML and I did today.
It is one of his latest acquisitions and he was doing me a big favour by lending it to me.
I have had a couple of lenses in for repair down at Taree, and they were ready for collection.
A good excuse for a day out.
With the trusty K-10D and the Auto Tamron in tow, we had a marvellous day.
Here is the lens:
and here is what it can do:
Happy days
OH |
That's a truly striking and remarkable photograph, Oldhand. I love photos of (mostly) open space - there is ever diminishing supply of it nowadays.
The lens confuses me just a bit. I have it pegged as an Adapt-A-Matic, and for that line of lenses the chromed, knurled ring securing the adapter is routine. What I've not seen prior is the presence of the small screw, in that ring, which shows clearly in your lens photo.
Could you say, please, which adapter is attached to that lens? |
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Auto Tamron 2.8/28 |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| Oldhand wrote: |
It is not very often that I get the opportunity to borrow a lens from my son, but he offered me one of his for an outing that LOML and I did today.
It is one of his latest acquisitions and he was doing me a big favour by lending it to me.
I have had a couple of lenses in for repair down at Taree, and they were ready for collection.
A good excuse for a day out.
With the trusty K-10D and the Auto Tamron in tow, we had a marvellous day.
Here is the lens:
and here is what it can do:
Happy days
OH |
That's a truly striking and remarkable photograph, Oldhand. I love photos of (mostly) open space - there is ever diminishing supply of it nowadays.
The lens confuses me just a bit. I have it pegged as an Adapt-A-Matic, and for that line of lenses the chromed, knurled ring securing the adapter is routine. What I've not seen prior is the presence of the small screw, in that ring, which shows clearly in your lens photo.
Could you say, please, which adapter is attached to that lens? |
Well, AFAIK it is an adaptamatic, but it does seem to have a fixed mount.
This one is M42
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guardian
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Auto Tamron 2.8/28 |
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guardian wrote:
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| guardian wrote: |
| Oldhand wrote: |
It is not very often that I get the opportunity to borrow a lens from my son, but he offered me one of his for an outing that LOML and I did today.
It is one of his latest acquisitions and he was doing me a big favour by lending it to me.
I have had a couple of lenses in for repair down at Taree, and they were ready for collection.
A good excuse for a day out.
With the trusty K-10D and the Auto Tamron in tow, we had a marvellous day.
Here is the lens:
and here is what it can do:
Happy days
OH |
That's a truly striking and remarkable photograph, Oldhand. I love photos of (mostly) open space - there is ever diminishing supply of it nowadays.
The lens confuses me just a bit. I have it pegged as an Adapt-A-Matic, and for that line of lenses the chromed, knurled ring securing the adapter is routine. What I've not seen prior is the presence of the small screw, in that ring, which shows clearly in your lens photo.
Could you say, please, which adapter is attached to that lens? |
Well, AFAIK it is an adaptamatic, but it does seem to have a fixed mount.
This one is M42
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Tamron Adapt-A-Matic adapters are changed out simply by unscrewing the chromed, knurled ring. Doing so allows the adapter, whatever it might be, to separate from the body of the lens. But I remain just a tad bit confused by that small screw in the knurled ring of your lens. I don't know its purpose and I don't recall ever having encountered such a screw with my own Adapt-A-Matics.
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I just checked my two Adapt-A-Matic 135s and my Adapt-A-Matic 35. The knurled rings are not chromed, just silver in color. But there is no small screw in the rings of my lenses.
I do not yet own an Adapt-A-Matic 28. It's been on my "get" list for a while. After seeing your fantastic photograph, Oldhand, the 28 has moved up that list. 
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Oldhand
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: Re: Auto Tamron 2.8/28 |
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Oldhand wrote:
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| guardian wrote: |
| Oldhand wrote: |
It is not very often that I get the opportunity to borrow a lens from my son, but he offered me one of his for an outing that LOML and I did today.
It is one of his latest acquisitions and he was doing me a big favour by lending it to me.
I have had a couple of lenses in for repair down at Taree, and they were ready for collection.
A good excuse for a day out.
With the trusty K-10D and the Auto Tamron in tow, we had a marvellous day.
Here is the lens:
and here is what it can do:
Happy days
OH |
That's a truly striking and remarkable photograph, Oldhand. I love photos of (mostly) open space - there is ever diminishing supply of it nowadays.
The lens confuses me just a bit. I have it pegged as an Adapt-A-Matic, and for that line of lenses the chromed, knurled ring securing the adapter is routine. What I've not seen prior is the presence of the small screw, in that ring, which shows clearly in your lens photo.
Could you say, please, which adapter is attached to that lens? |
Well, AFAIK it is an adaptamatic, but it does seem to have a fixed mount.
This one is M42
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Tamron Adapt-A-Matic adapters are changed out simply by unscrewing the chromed, knurled ring. Doing so allows the adapter, whatever it might be, to separate from the body of the lens. But I remain just a tad bit confused by that small screw in the knurled ring of your lens. I don't know its purpose and I don't recall ever having encountered such a screw with my own Adapt-A-Matics. |
Probably a locking screw just like the old T mounts.
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
Quite possibly so, Oldhand.
Your post crossed my edit. Here it is again:
I just checked my two Adapt-A-Matic 135s and my Adapt-A-Matic 35. The knurled rings are not chromed, just silver in color. But there is no small screw in the rings of my lenses.
I do not yet own an Adapt-A-Matic 28. It's been on my "get" list for a while. After seeing your fantastic photograph, Oldhand, the 28 has moved up that list.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
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Quite possibly so, Oldhand.
Your post crossed my edit. Here it is again:
I just checked my two Adapt-A-Matic 135s and my Adapt-A-Matic 35. The knurled rings are not chromed, just silver in color. But there is no small screw in the rings of my lenses.
I do not yet own an Adapt-A-Matic 28. It's been on my "get" list for a while. After seeing you fantastic photograph, Oldhand, the 28 has moved up that list.
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Gratias.
I am blushing 
The lens belongs to my son Michael, who graciously lent it to me today.
K-10D - best camera investment I ever made.
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drjs
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WOW! What a wonderful result! Is this right out of camera or with post processing?
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Tamron also produced fixed mount versions. This has the looks of an adaptamatic therefore I deduce of that era, but is presumably a fixed mount version. That doesn't look like the adaptamatic screw sleeve at the mount end - on my 300mm it's a knurled top edge to grip and unscrew the mount, same as the pic here.
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/PFH-28Au.html
The specs of the tamron 28mm changed very little from adaptamatic through adaptall -1 to adaptall-2 (albeit the latter was f2.5, not f2.8 ).
I should try using my 02B more. Too easy just to plonk my Miniwide or Superwide on to the pentax...
Lovely pic Oldhand... Australia's Green and Pleasant Land .....????
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Minolfan
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Minolfan wrote:
A beautifull landscape, never mind the mount of the lens! |
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uddhava
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uddhava wrote:
Beautiful image!
I hope my Tamron 2.8/28 will be able to give such good results.
I recently bought the BBar Multi C.
Such a great view! |
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luisalegria wrote:
Lovely shot, well done. Right place, right time, and the wit to recognize the situation.
This may be a fixed mount version of the Adaptamatic. There was quite a variety of this sort of thing from Tamron, little of it documented.
Much more of this sort of thing was sold outside the US market. Tamron had different distribution arrangements in different places it seems, and the products sold could vary.
Hard to say without more pictures.
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
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Lovely shot, well done. Right place, right time, and the wit to recognize the situation.
This may be a fixed mount version of the Adaptamatic. There was quite a variety of this sort of thing from Tamron, little of it documented.
Much more of this sort of thing was sold outside the US market. Tamron had different distribution arrangements in different places it seems, and the products sold could vary.
Hard to say without more pictures. |
Gosh! What a valuable post. A fixed mount Adapt-A-Matic! I was totally unaware such a thing existed. There's one to watch out for, big time!! This is frightening stuff for Adapt-A-Matic buyers.  |
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luisalegria wrote:
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio ....
The 80-250/3.8 zoom (properly documented in Tamron/Adaptall-2 sites) and 300/5.6 (not doc'ed) are actually fairly common in fixed mount. In the US most are seen in third party brands such as Bushnell, etc.
And there are even Adaptamatic lenses with Adaptall mounts, though normally with significant cosmetic differences. Some types mainly known as Adptamatics were reissued with the early Adaptall mounts. Not documented in either Tamrons nor the Adaptall-2 site.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks everyone for your kind words.
To answer drjs' question, the image has been cropped to 16:9 and the sky exposure adjusted in LR5 - otherwise as is from camera.
The camera is my Pentax K-10D, so not swimming in megapixels like a D800 might be.
To help with the lens ID a little more, here are some additional images.
Forgive the slightly soft focus but it is early morning here and the light is so so. (Handheld slow exposure)
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
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Thanks everyone for your kind words.
To answer drjs' question, the image has been cropped to 16:9 and the sky exposure adjusted in LR5 - otherwise as is from camera.
The camera is my Pentax K-10D, so not swimming in megapixels like a D800 might be.
To help with the lens ID a little more, here are some additional images.
Forgive the slightly soft focus but it is early morning here and the light is so so. (Handheld slow exposure)
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OK, lens porn pure and simple. Considering the amazing photograph in the OP, and then looking at that lens all glass and metal and no plastic in sight, well, . . .
This is like finding a beautiful woman who also can cook!!
One thing though:
That Adapt-A-Matic 28 lens does not have a fixed mount. I'd bet my Graflex on it. |
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luisalegria wrote:
Hmmm
That looks a lot more "Adaptamatic" than I thought it might.
Thats a spitting image of a removable Adaptamatic M42 mount, pin linkage, label, etc., it seems to be there.
The only false note is the chrome ring.
Does the chrome ring unscrew ?
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BeardsAreBest wrote:
Wow what an awesome Photo!
This Oldhand fella really got some skills right here.
Have to find a Tamron like this one and have a play.
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
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Hmmm
That looks a lot more "Adaptamatic" than I thought it might.
Thats a spitting image of a removable Adaptamatic M42 mount, pin linkage, label, etc., it seems to be there.
The only false note is the chrome ring.
Does the chrome ring unscrew ? |
Well, we have had a look and removed the small screw, but nothing wants to unscrew.
Still, why have a small screw if not to lock the ring.
Can't give you an answer I'm afraid.
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Wow what an awesome Photo!
This Oldhand fella really got some skills right here.
Have to find a Tamron like this one and have a play.
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That is a nice lens that you have and a great image,I can only hope to capture an image like that.
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guardian
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You have a very interesting lens there, Oldhand. Your efforts to solve the mystery are appreciated. In light of what you wrote, I might have to withdraw my offer to bet my Graflex. But rest assured you have helped would-be Adapt-A-Matic buyers, myself included.
The Adapt-A-Matic lenses go back a bit . . . . 1969 to 1972 if memory serves . . . . and that's just from memory. Some technical details have become lost, I suppose, in the mists of time's passage. At the bottom line you obviously already know, and you have demonstrated very capably, that it's a great lens. This will have to suffice for now.
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OK, FWIW. Here is a link to the standard reference we all use for Adapt-A-Matic lenses:
http://www.adaptall-2.org/lenses/Adapt-A-Matic_LensIndex.html
I needed to read that again since I got the years wrong. Regardless, there is mention of the fixed mount version and the difficulty finding documentation regarding that version.
What always stood out for me with some Adapt-A-Matics was the red fringing vs. purple fringing. I think that is a pretty cool and distinctive property. |
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Oldhand
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Oldhand wrote:
Thanks folks.
I know that my son got lucky when he bought this lens and he hasn't stopped smiling since.
I doubt that I will get another go at it haha.
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| That is a nice lens that you have and a great image,I can only hope to capture an image like that. |
Thanks Mo, there are some beautiful places around your neck of the woods. The Gilmore Valley has so much to offer and I never was able to find the time to exploit its photographic potential.
Another great spot is just off to the left after the cow and calf on the Batlow Rd. There is a fantastic view across the valley to the Bribabellas. Best in winter when there is snow on the tops.
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guardian
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guardian wrote:
Well, Oldhand, this thread finally exhorted me to act. And if this does not work out I will blame YOU!!  (JK)
Seriously, I just bought a copy of the Adapt-A-Matic 28mm here:
Click here to see on Ebay
If that lens has a fixed mount (seller says "no" in his description) I'm gonna be so toasted. It'll become a parts lens. |
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