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StillSanj
 Joined: 21 Apr 2015 Posts: 412 Location: United States
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 2:11 am Post subject: Auto Chinon 55mm Macro 1.7- Cleaning help and advice please |
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StillSanj wrote:
Hey guys. A while ago I got a Chinon CM-3 camera for $40 dollars, and it just so happens to have a Auto Chinon MCM Macro 1.7 on it.
I really like the lens for it's somewhat Macro potential as well as fast aperture. The aperture blades work like a charm, and that was a common problem with these lenses. However, it is rather soft in its bokeh and doing the flashlight test, I noticed that it's front element is rather dirty. I'm not sure if its fungus or what, but it seems rather salvagable to me. The image quality is not that bad, but since I really like the lens and paid so little for it, I would like to see it at it's full potential. Here is the damage..
My question is mainly 3 fold....1) is the lens worth cleaning? or is it even salvagable, and that is as good as it gets and I should just kill the fungus, if that is fungus, with UV and use lens as it is? 2) Is the lens easy to clean/disassemble? Does anyone have any experience or knowledge in this, or how much it differs from the regular Chinon 1.7? and 3), If it is advised to get it CLA'd or serviced, does anyone know a decent person or service in the Nebraska area? Or is someone here a helpful camper that would take the services upon themselves for a decent friendly fee? Thanks in advance guys, I could really use your help.
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calvin83
 Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 7495 Location: Hong Kong
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 3:47 am Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
I would suggest you get a non-macro version and swap all the elements. _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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cooltouch
 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 9109 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:53 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I gotta disagree with Calvin on this one. Your lens looks like it's dusty, has some haze, and even fingerprints, but I see no signs of fungus from the photos you show. With the right tools, you should be able to clean the inside of that front element yourself. Most likely to get to the front element, you will need a large rubber stopper that will fit snugly against the lens's nameplate/bezel in front. You should be able to unscrew by pressing the rubber stopper firmly against it and then rotating counter-clockwise. Chances are, beneath this bezel there will be a slotted retainer ring, and you will need a lens spanner to loosen it. Don't try using two screwdrivers or anything but the proper tool because the chance of scratching the front element is too great. You can find lens spanners on eBay. The good ones aren't cheap, but they'll last a lifetime. You can find the rubber stoppers for lens disassembly on eBay too. Other than that, maybe a chemistry supply. Once you've unscrewed the retaining ring, the front element will probably fall free. So just do your best job at cleaning it and then put things back together in the reverse of disassembly. _________________ Michael
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calvin83
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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calvin83 wrote:
Michael. I suppose the OP will try to clean the lens before purchasing another copy for elements swapping.  _________________ https://lensfever.com/
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cooltouch
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StillSanj
 Joined: 21 Apr 2015 Posts: 412 Location: United States
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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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StillSanj wrote:
Hey thanks for your guys input! I'm rather novice, but it seems to me to not be fungus, and if it is, I do not believe it is etched in the glass. Also, it is almost only the front element as the other elements seem to show hardly any wear except minor dust, and luckily, from your instructions, that doesn't seem to be too hard to disassemble. I have never cleaned or disassembled a lens before, but I'm a pretty patient and focused guy. I believe I will look around for someone that has more experience, but if I do not find anyone, I will take you up on your instructions and try to clean it myself. Thank you cooltouch! Also, do you by any chance have any suggestions as to what to clean it with? I've heard all kinds of things out there, but you seem like a knowledgeable guy, so I'd probably give your suggestion a chance. Thanks again. |
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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vroger wrote:
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StillSanj
 Joined: 21 Apr 2015 Posts: 412 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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StillSanj wrote:
Hey thanks for the referral. Luckily I found a guy in Omaha, one hour away from me, who I just talked to on the phone. He seems like an old timer, and he says his services start at $20. So I believe that it will not be that hard and time consuming for him to do it, as I believe I'll only need him to clean the front element. But if the price is reasonable, I will have him do a full cleaning. With this lens, I do not want to take any chances and do it myself, as it might be my very favorite lens and is rather collectible, and therefore any investment in in now will make it's way back to me. |
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cooltouch
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Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 4:24 am Post subject: |
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cooltouch wrote:
I'm glad you found a guy, StillSanj. For your future reference, the only thing I use when I'm doing a final lens cleaning is lens cleaning solution. I may use alcohol or naphtha during earlier cleaning phases, but to put the final spotless shine on a lens, just regular old lens cleaner and lens tissue is all you need. _________________ Michael
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