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Aspiring lens repairenthusiast, roadmap?
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Aspiring lens repairenthusiast, roadmap? Reply with quote

So, I am leaning to learn how to repair and clean lenses. What lenses are good to learn the craftsmanship with? I don't want to destroy (too many) lenses while learning.

I have no problem reading technicaldocuments for days or read schemes and blueprints until my eyes bleed. I just want to know where to begin.

Anyone walked the line and teached themselves? I am considering to make a series in blogform or somesuch where I document what I do with each lense etc. Because documenting helps learning, I have discovered.

Anyways, I need tips on easy lenses and/or equipement that would be a good beginning. And hopefully not expensive lenses.

Perhaps some people have some cheap lenses they don't care of and that they would bin or not use ever anyways?

Regards,
Zewrak


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old russian or german lenses has easy and logical constructions. Japanese lenses can be vary many of them glued , this means uncleanable.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Attila wrote:
Old russian or german lenses has easy and logical constructions. Japanese lenses can be vary many of them glued , this means uncleanable.


Would it be easier to start with 50mmish lenses? I understand that they are the easier ones? I got a Pentacon that seem odd with the aperture ring and it glitches a bit, I suppose I could demolish it and try to figure out whats wrong with it.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, good start.

I cleaned by myself following lenses:

Carl Zeiss Jena Biometar 55mm f2
Orestegor 200mm f4
Konica 135mm f3.5 (glued) lens liquid went to inner element and never be perfect anymore , because I couldn't open glued front elements.
Carl Zeiss Jena Olympia Sonnar 180mm
Novoflex 40 cm f5.6

Might be a few more I don't remember really for others.

I couldn't open any and clean any zoom lenses.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right. I shall consider it for disassembly then.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No need for study !

I suggest you just get broken lenses and work on them. Toujours l'audace !

My repair jobs -

Quantaray Zoom for Olympus - wet and full of sand - cleaned and functional
Old Takumar 50/2.2 semi-auto - broken aperture linkage - still broken, sorry to say, my half-assed part replacement isn't working.
Suntar 135 - conversion to manual aperture - successful
Zeiss Pancolar - fungus inside rear elements - cleaned
Soligor 180 preset - dislocated aperture blades - succesful repair, nice lens !
Upsilon 300/4 - oil on lens, bad aperture, etc. - lenses are clean, but still needs new spring. Lousy lens anyway.

etc.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

luisalegria wrote:
No need for study !

I suggest you just get broken lenses and work on them. Toujours l'audace !

My repair jobs -

Quantaray Zoom for Olympus - wet and full of sand - cleaned and functional
Old Takumar 50/2.2 semi-auto - broken aperture linkage - still broken, sorry to say, my half-assed part replacement isn't working.
Suntar 135 - conversion to manual aperture - successful
Zeiss Pancolar - fungus inside rear elements - cleaned
Soligor 180 preset - dislocated aperture blades - succesful repair, nice lens !
Upsilon 300/4 - oil on lens, bad aperture, etc. - lenses are clean, but still needs new spring. Lousy lens anyway.

etc.


How did you fix oily blades? I fear id break them, they look so fragile :p. How did you convert to manual? Just glued / stuck the pin?


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't have a case yet of oily blades - or oily blades that bothered me - as I only use manual aperture.

I did have a couple of cases of dislocated blades, where the blades had popped out of their hinges.

I disassembled and re-assembled the iris in those cases. The blades are not that fragile.

That Suntar has a very simple mechanism. I removed the pin and made the spring that kept the iris open pull in the opposite direction, by relocating the spring hook, so it worked to keep it closed. That way the opening followed the aperture setting, closing as you closed the aperture.


PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, here are a few links to articles about dismantling and/or cleaning some lenses. Maybe you could record your work the same way and let us all see it! Smile Good luck

CZJ 3.5/135 http://www.aprd31.dsl.pipex.com/articles/czj135svc/
S-Tak 1.4/50 http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Srawhiti/pentax50mmf1.4.html
Pentacon Auto 1.8/50 http://www.dughir.ro/articles.php?article=./articles/article00002.html
CZJ Flektogon 2.8/20 http://www.flickr.com/photos/architect/sets/72157594225107955/
Pentacon 2.8/135 http://www.mqcvisions.net/Pentacon_135_2_8/Pentacon_1.html
Helios 44-2 http://www.euphonium.plus.com/Drawings/Helios%2520Repair%2520Manual%2520English.pdf