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PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 6:22 pm    Post subject: Arista Premium (rebranded Tri-X) Euro group buy Reply with quote
Hi,

I'm looking to buy Arista Premium (rebranded Tri-X) from Freestyle Photo in the US, but as a European it isn't cheap. I hoped others would maybe be willing to also get in on this so we can cut down on shipping costs.
Leave a reply here or shoot me a message if you want to do a group buy. Other Freestyle-photo stuff is of course also welcome. My only concern is to cut down on shipping as much as possible!


PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
unfortunately shipping is not the biggest pain, income duties are Evil or Very Mad


PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why import Tri-X when there are good 400 speed films available in the EU?

HP5 17m rolls for 14.95eu from Germany:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ilford-HP5-35mm-Meterware-17m-Surveillance-400-P4-R537-/271143586227?pt=DE_Analoge_Fotografischer_Film&hash=item3f216ac9b3

Maco Eagle TS 400 is the same price from Germany too, it's superpanchromatic (extended red sensitivity) so like Ilford SFX but a lot cheaper, can be used as normal bw film or stick a deep red filter on it and use it as IR film.

I don't shoot fast films, 125 (FP4) or slower is my preference, but I want to try the Maco Eagle 400 sometime for some IR shots.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
berraneck wrote:
unfortunately shipping is not the biggest pain, income duties are Evil or Very Mad


with a US member help, no pain, buy film and send it to him , if he send it to you wit low value declaration , damaged in storage blah, blah and ship with tracking number, but not insured nobody can force to pay tax.

http://forum.mflenses.com/relay-service-for-members-t21659,highlight,%2Brelay.html


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Last time my friend in Ohio sent me 2000 ft film with 10 usd declaration, dhl gives it to me at my house without asking any money. The custom also listened to my request and hand checked it. Laughing


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
HP5 ≠ P4 Surveillance

from what I´ve seen it´s a good material, but really isn´t same as Tri-X


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
kyonthinh wrote:
Last time my friend in Ohio sent me 2000 ft film with 10 usd declaration, dhl gives it to me at my house without asking any money. The custom also listened to my request and hand checked it. Laughing


So you confirm it what I say this is way to go.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
kyonthinh wrote:
Last time my friend in Ohio sent me 2000 ft film with 10 usd declaration, dhl gives it to me at my house without asking any money. The custom also listened to my request and hand checked it. Laughing


Holy moses, that's an amazing story haha.

So, any US members that would be willing to be a middle-man for US?
I got a lot of friends in the US because I lived there for a while, so I'll ask them too.

Any other people that would like to order stuff from Freestyle photo?

iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
Why import Tri-X when there are good 400 speed films available in the EU?

HP5 17m rolls for 14.95eu from Germany:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ilford-HP5-35mm-Meterware-17m-Surveillance-400-P4-R537-/271143586227?pt=DE_Analoge_Fotografischer_Film&hash=item3f216ac9b3

Maco Eagle TS 400 is the same price from Germany too, it's superpanchromatic (extended red sensitivity) so like Ilford SFX but a lot cheaper, can be used as normal bw film or stick a deep red filter on it and use it as IR film.

I don't shoot fast films, 125 (FP4) or slower is my preference, but I want to try the Maco Eagle 400 sometime for some IR shots.


I'm not a big fan of HP5. I push my film to 1600 almost always and HP5 doesn't push very nicely I think.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Arista / Tri-X is a nice film that I would like, unfortunately Italian customs do not listen to any reason/excuse and always apply the highest possible taxes on import.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
Arista / Tri-X is a nice film that I would like, unfortunately Italian customs do not listen to any reason/excuse and always apply the highest possible taxes on import.


There shouldn't be any customs when I send it from the Netherlands, because it's in the EU already, right? Wouldn't it be only if it got send directly to Italy?


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
yeah this "patch" with relay and declaring lower value sometimes work. in my country duty officers really are not so dumb to believe ridiculously low price, so if there´s even slight shade of doubt, they ask for proof of price or simply calculate price according to "ussual" price of film in shop - and that can make the price even higher as ussual Rolling Eyes


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
berraneck wrote:
yeah this "patch" with relay and declaring lower value sometimes work. in my country duty officers really are not so dumb to believe ridiculously low price, so if there´s even slight shade of doubt, they ask for proof of price or simply calculate price according to "ussual" price of film in shop - and that can make the price even higher as ussual Rolling Eyes


To send from Nederland is fine, no usual price on second hand film , so I think your officers are dumb and not legal what they do, thank for GOD Hungarians customs did keep law and didn't play as expert on second hand stuff.


PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
TijmenDal wrote:
I'm not a big fan of HP5. I push my film to 1600 almost always and HP5 doesn't push very nicely I think.


I have to ask, why do you push to 1600? Surely it compresses the tonal range, increases grain and produces inferior results? 400 film is not so great to begin with, pushing is not going to help.

I'm not attacking you in any way, I'm just intrigued to hear your reasons for doing it as I'm sure you have reasons why and I'm always keen to learn about different techniques and concepts when it comes to shooting film. Smile


PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
TijmenDal wrote:
Orio wrote:
Arista / Tri-X is a nice film that I would like, unfortunately Italian customs do not listen to any reason/excuse and always apply the highest possible taxes on import.


There shouldn't be any customs when I send it from the Netherlands, because it's in the EU already, right? Wouldn't it be only if it got send directly to Italy?


Yes, correct.
Well, if you let me know what price you can make for 1 or 2 bulk rolls of Arista Premium, and for shipping them to Italy (at least registered, preferably insured), if the total cost
is one that I can afford (I don't have much cash availability at the moment), I will be glad to partecipate.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
iangreenhalgh1 wrote:
TijmenDal wrote:
I'm not a big fan of HP5. I push my film to 1600 almost always and HP5 doesn't push very nicely I think.


I have to ask, why do you push to 1600? Surely it compresses the tonal range, increases grain and produces inferior results? 400 film is not so great to begin with, pushing is not going to help.

I'm not attacking you in any way, I'm just intrigued to hear your reasons for doing it as I'm sure you have reasons why and I'm always keen to learn about different techniques and concepts when it comes to shooting film. Smile


I like to shoot street photography a lot and that's when I really need the speed. I like shooting at least at 1/500 and f/11 (or even higher) and a lot of the times 1600 ISO helps out a lot. I zone focus so the big depth of field is a big help.
I don't really care about the small tonal range and grain and all that stuff.


PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
TijmenDal wrote:
Orio wrote:
Arista / Tri-X is a nice film that I would like, unfortunately Italian customs do not listen to any reason/excuse and always apply the highest possible taxes on import.


There shouldn't be any customs when I send it from the Netherlands, because it's in the EU already, right? Wouldn't it be only if it got send directly to Italy?


Yes, correct.
Well, if you let me know what price you can make for 1 or 2 bulk rolls of Arista Premium, and for shipping them to Italy (at least registered, preferably insured), if the total cost
is one that I can afford (I don't have much cash availability at the moment), I will be glad to partecipate.


Depending on how much shipping to Italy is I think 50-55€ would be possible. Much better than paying 90€+ for a roll of Tri-X in Europe.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
berraneck wrote:
yeah this "patch" with relay and declaring lower value sometimes work. in my country duty officers really are not so dumb to believe ridiculously low price, so if there´s even slight shade of doubt, they ask for proof of price or simply calculate price according to "ussual" price of film in shop - and that can make the price even higher as ussual Rolling Eyes


Yeah, last time I was in Prague, look at the film price in some shops and I almost kill myself.
5 Euro for Kodak Colorplus 200 and Superia 200, wow.


PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
true, these are prices for desperate tourists in overpriced souvenir shops. it´s better to stock up film when some good deal shows up. as I think about it, I cannot remember last time I bought film in normal shop:)

TijmenDal: 55€ is for 100ft roll right?


PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
berraneck wrote:
true, these are prices for desperate tourists in overpriced souvenir shops. it´s better to stock up film when some good deal shows up. as I think about it, I cannot remember last time I bought film in normal shop:)

TijmenDal: 55€ is for 100ft roll right?


can be dangerous, hard to find space for food in my fridge, I did stock for next 25 yrs lol


PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
berraneck wrote:
true, these are prices for desperate tourists in overpriced souvenir shops. it´s better to stock up film when some good deal shows up. as I think about it, I cannot remember last time I bought film in normal shop:)

TijmenDal: 55€ is for 100ft roll right?

Since i use films, I have never bought anything in shop.
My best deal with films is Konica Minolta Centuria 200 for 50 cents/roll, I got 200 rolls. Laughing


PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
true, in case of 2012 mayan apocallypse, I would have plenty of film to shoot but almost no food to eat.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
berraneck wrote:

TijmenDal: 55€ is for 100ft roll right?


Yeah


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
55eu is pretty expensive.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190722926024?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

14.90eu for 17m. Don't know how it pushes because I don't push films.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
maco surveillance is cheaper alternative, but
1) that is completely different film
2) the price is without shipping costs
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