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niblue

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 545 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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| bob955i wrote: | | niblue wrote: | | LucisPictor wrote: | *In the style of that: "If a husband walks through the woods, talking, and his wife is not with him, is he still wrong?"  |
Well I've been married for nearly 18 years and can state that the answer is clearly yes... |
Is that your opinion or the one that the wife tells you to have......?  |
Wait, I'll have to go and ask... _________________ Regards
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niblue

Joined: 19 Oct 2007 Posts: 545 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| peterqd wrote: | | patrickh wrote: | | Ansel was a perfectionist first, then technician then artist. |
Sounds like a description of me if you leave off the artist bit. I know very little about him, but this makes me think I'm going to have fun finding out! |
His work is more varied that people at first expect, even including some colour stuff. _________________ Regards
Steve |
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patrickh

Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 3576 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed it is - niblue - but his fame/reputation is based predominantly on 1) his pictures of scenery 2) his series of books on photography (including his zone system). It could be argued that he was the father of modern photography in the sense that he laid down some technical rules that other great artists have taken to heart as a basis for their art (Cecil Beaton springs to mind). We are actually fortunate, in my mind, that we have had so many real artists expressing themselves through photography and giving us standards to pursue, both stylistically and technically.
@Orio - we would lose a lot if we all had that compromise, some of us should stay at the ends.
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Orio

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 12541 Location: West Emilia
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Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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My issue with his photographs is not the subject. I have seen sceneries and I have seen portraits, all of them technically impeccable, all of them that leave me wishing that something bad and vital could have happened instead of this ice-sculpted perfection, that to me looks the same whether it is a mountain or the beard of an old man.
In a way, his works remind me of most of the artworks of Canova. Technically impeccable sculptor. Probably the most talented ever existed, at the same skills level than Michelangelo, some say even better than him - BUT - Michelangelo sculptures give me the shivers when I look at them, most of Canova (not all of them, but at least 80% of them), don't.
I look at how beautifully executed they are, I admire the purity and the virtuosism on the marble, then I move over to something else without much regret.
I have the same reaction with Adams photos, at least those that I have seen.
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LucisPictor


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 7760 Location: Oberhessen, Germany / Maidstone ('95-'96)
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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That's a sound comparison, Orio. _________________ There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don’t.
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Seymore


Joined: 26 Feb 2007 Posts: 1040 Location: Olympia, WA...
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Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:42 am Post subject: |
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And there's more...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/audiointerviews/profilepages/adamsa2.shtml
I would also suggest a good read: Ansel Adams: An Autobiography (Paperback). I found it to be quite revealing and gave some insight to his life. _________________ Seymore...
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"One axiom I discovered proved to be of great value: the client seldom, if ever, knows exactly what he wants from the photographer. However, his pride does not allow him to give you any such ridiculous impression. The desire and need for interpretative work is usually uninformed and the client often looks to the professional for guidance in this respect.
Ansel Adams - An Autobiography |
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