Affordable ultra wide angle lenses

Sandie · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 177 Location: Austria

I am considering an ultra wide angle lens as the backup for my Flektogon 4/20. Here I put a list of affordable lenses as a reference.
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17 mm

Tamron 51B SP 17mm f/3.5
Tamron 151B SP 17mm f/3.5
Tokina RMC TL 17mm f/3.5
Soligor 17mm f/3.5
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19 mm

Vivitar 19mm f/3.5
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20 mm

Cosina 20mm f/3.8
Yashica DS 20mm f/3.3
Yashica ML 20mm f/3.3
Mir 20M 20mm f/3.5
Mir 47N 20mm f/2.5
Mir 73N (Arsat) 20mm f/2.8
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21 mm

Yashica DX 21mm f/3.3
Yashica ML 21mm f/3.3
Soligor 21mm f/3.8
Chinon (Tomioka) 21mm f/3.5
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Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 20/f4, Flektogon 35/f2.4, Pancolar 50/f1.4, Pancolar 50/f1.8, Tessar 50/f2.8, Pancolar 80/f1.8, Sonnar 135/f3.5, Sonnar 135/f4, Sonnar 180/f2.8;
Pentacon: 50/f1.8, 135/f2.8, 200/f4, 300/f4;
Meyer: Orestegon 29/f2.8, Lydith 30/f3.5, Domiplan 50/f2.8, Trioplan 100/f2.8, Orestor 100/f2.8, Telemegor 250/f5.5;
Revuenon: 24/f4(Ennalyt), 28/f3.5(Ennalyt), 200/f3.5(Tomioka);
Yashica: 28/f2.8; 55/f1.2;
Soligor 135/f2.8; 35/f2.8;
Misc: Schacht 50/f2.8; Steinheil 135/f3.5; Mamiya 55/f1.4; Fujinon 135/f3.5; Tokina 70-220/f3.5; Tamron 28/f2.5; Helios 58/f2; Kiron 28/f2; Volna 80/f2.8; Mir 24M 35/f2;Carenar 85-210/f4.5; Olympus 50/f1.8; Chinon 35-80/f3.5-4.9; Pentax 55/f2;

estudleon · Joined: 15 May 2008 Posts: 907 Location: Argentina

If you have a 20 mm, why don't you go for a bit wide - 17mm in the list-?

12, 13, 15, 17 mm can give us a new vision of the same things.

Good luck. Rino.
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Mamiya 2,8/135
Misc. : jupiter 9

sichko · Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 379 Location: South West UK

I've had a Tokina RMC 3.5/17 for a couple of weeks. I haven't had any experience with anything similar but I'm very happy with it. Before I spotted the Tokina on ebay I was thinking about one of the Russian 20s. I still am - but I'm not sure which one to go for.
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Zenitar 2.8/16, Tokina 3.5/17, Arsat 2.8/20
Tamron 2.5/28
Mir 24N 2/35, Mir1 2.8/37, CZJ 2.4/35
Industar 50 3.5/50, Ind 50-2, 3.5/50, Helios 77M-4 1.8/50, Zenitar ME1 1.7/50, Ind 61/LZ 2.8/50, Volna 9 2.8/50
Helios 44x (44-2, 44M, 44M-4) 2/58
Jupiter 9 2/85, Volna 3 2.8/80, Vega 12 2.8/90
Jupiter 11A 4/135, Jupiter 37A 3.5/135, Tair 11A 2.8/135
Kaleinar 3b 2.8/150
Telear N 3.5/200, Soligor 3.5/200, Jupiter 21A 4/200

Sandie · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 177 Location: Austria

kds315* · Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 560 Location: Weinheim/Germany

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DSG · Joined: 04 Mar 2007 Posts: 121 Location: London, UK.

LucisPictor · Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:44 pm Post subject:

The Tokina 3.5/17 you can also get as a Vivitar 3.5/17 (same lens!).
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F16SUNSHINE · Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject:

the sigma is good on cropped came
It is not sharp in corners for FF
I have one FS also a Tokina
The Tokina is better and less dorayme Smile

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kds315* · Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 560 Location: Weinheim/Germany

F16SUNSHINE · Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject:

Yes you have me on that.
I was thinking more like NY Bronx

Dough Ray Me Laughing

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Canon 5D, 40D
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Epson R D1(s), Bessa L, Bessa R2m, Leica CL, CV 4.5/15, 4/25, 1.4/40, Zeiss ZM 2/35, Yashinon1.8/50, CLE 4/90, Zeiss Opton 4/135 T, Electro GT, Electro GX, Electro CC

Sandie · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 177 Location: Austria

I have recently heard from one of my friends, that there is a Seagull 17mm f/4 which is made in China. The price is rather cheap, 80€ for a brand new one, and 40€ for a second hand one. It provides reasonable photo quality, though the ML coating does not work very well.

Anyway I am quite interesting in it now. My friend promises to bring one for me, when he visits China later this year or early next year. A new toy, isn't it.

Flor27 · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1197 Location: Paris, France

Sandie · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 177 Location: Austria

Flor27 · Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Posts: 1197 Location: Paris, France

I may be interested in a second hand 20mm MD mount Embarassed

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Sandie · Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 177 Location: Austria

I just asked my friend, he said there is only 17mm f/4 and 24mm f/2.8 available.
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Canon 350D + Pentax MZ10 + Pracktica BX20 + Mamiya 1000TL + Yashica TL Electro X + Yashica FR1 + Pentax ES II

Carl Zeiss Jena: Flektogon 20/f4, Flektogon 35/f2.4, Pancolar 50/f1.4, Pancolar 50/f1.8, Tessar 50/f2.8, Pancolar 80/f1.8, Sonnar 135/f3.5, Sonnar 135/f4, Sonnar 180/f2.8;
Pentacon: 50/f1.8, 135/f2.8, 200/f4, 300/f4;
Meyer: Orestegon 29/f2.8, Lydith 30/f3.5, Domiplan 50/f2.8, Trioplan 100/f2.8, Orestor 100/f2.8, Telemegor 250/f5.5;
Revuenon: 24/f4(Ennalyt), 28/f3.5(Ennalyt), 200/f3.5(Tomioka);
Yashica: 28/f2.8; 55/f1.2;
Soligor 135/f2.8; 35/f2.8;
Misc: Schacht 50/f2.8; Steinheil 135/f3.5; Mamiya 55/f1.4; Fujinon 135/f3.5; Tokina 70-220/f3.5; Tamron 28/f2.5; Helios 58/f2; Kiron 28/f2; Volna 80/f2.8; Mir 24M 35/f2;Carenar 85-210/f4.5; Olympus 50/f1.8; Chinon 35-80/f3.5-4.9; Pentax 55/f2;