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vilva
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 Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:39 pm Post subject: A pro has got to start it young |
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On my usual round I caught sight of this young Nikonist and managed to capture her in action:
(Zebra Flek 4/50 at f/4 on 350D)
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Attila
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Cute!
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LucisPictor
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Great! And the thing is, she really seems to know what she is doing!
Great snapshot!
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peterqd
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| LucisPictor wrote: | Great! And the thing is, she really seems to know what she is doing!
Great snapshot! |
Interesting to see how she's holding the camera. In portrait mode I always have my right hand at the top, am I strange? Maybe she's left-handed. |
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bob955i
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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She may not have the strength to both grip and hold the camera in a more conventional right hand uppermost portrait stance - notice how she has her right arm tight in against the front of her body.
My 9 year old niece had a photographic project to do for her school and so I let her use my Minolta DiMage 7i. First thing I noticed was that although the 7i isn't particularly big or heavy, she couldn't quite reach the shutter release and she remarked on the weight of the camera. She managed, but not in a conventional way.
I doubt she would have managed the 5D....
Nice image by the way  |
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LucisPictor
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@Peter and Bob: Very interesting observations!
This made me think. Strangely enough, I was not aware of how I hold my cam, I do not think about it. And I have just tried it: it depends on the cam, but with a SLR I mostly do it the way Peter does it.
Bob has a good point about strength and position of elbow.
Good to have you here, mates. A bit like CSI MFlenses. 
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hacksawbob
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| Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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she has a good stance weight on one foot holding the camera as best as little hands can. My daughter has trouble looking through view finder with one eye. Tonight she said it looked all "funny" (blurred) I had to explain that it was a MF lens and that it did not focus itself like my sigma does  |
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TDN
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@ peter: I actually often hold mine the same way. My leading eye is my left eye, and I have an uncorrectable sharpness error on my right eye, so I hold the camera to my left, and that way I find holding the grip at the bottom of the camera is a little more convenient 
@ Veijo: nice image!
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Seymore
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 6:53 am Post subject: |
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This is exactly the word that came to mind for me.
Well captured vilva...
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peterqd
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| Seymore wrote: |
This is exactly the word that came to mind for me.
Well captured vilva... |
For the sake of interest, I have a different understanding of the word "cute". I've always used it to describe someone who is clever, sharp-witted, maybe even crafty or cunning. When someone has a good idea about how to do something, or finds a clever short-cut for example, I would say they were being cute, or had a cute idea. I suppose this is the English language evolving. |
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vilva
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| Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| peterqd wrote: | | Seymore wrote: |
This is exactly the word that came to mind for me.
Well captured vilva... |
For the sake of interest, I have a different understanding of the word "cute". I've always used it to describe someone who is clever, sharp-witted, maybe even crafty or cunning. When someone has a good idea about how to do something, or finds a clever short-cut for example, I would say they were being cute, or had a cute idea. I suppose this is the English language evolving. |
Oxford English Dictionary gives also another meaning, originally U.S. colloquial usage and Schoolboy slang, now in general colloquial use, applied to people as well as things, with the sense 'attractive, pretty, charming', also 'attractive in a mannered way'. The first example is from 1834 so it isn't exactly recent. I've also seen usage where the meanings seem to overlap.
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peterqd
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| vilva wrote: | | another meaning, originally U.S. colloquial usage and Schoolboy slang |
Hmm |
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LucisPictor
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Yep, "cute" is a typical American word meaning "pretty, charming, sweet", often used for children and by American teenage girls.
Often heard in the States, I've never heard it in England, really.
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"Schnäppchenjäger" | "KAPCTEH" | "Karusutenu" | "Carsten" | T-shirt?
Cams in use: EOS 40D, EOS 350D, EOS 50e, EOS 500, Spotmatic SPII, EXA I & 1c, Zenit EM; Oly 35RC,Minolta Hi-Matic E & F, Ricoh 500RF, Yashica Electro 35 GS, FED-3b and some others...
Lenses in use: Asahi Pentax: 2.8/28;3.5/35;1.4/50;1.7/50;2.8/105;3.5/135;28-80 | Canon (AF):1.8/50;17-85;75-300 | Former GDR: CZJ Flek 4/20; Pentacon 3.5/30; Pentaflex 1.8/50; CZJ 2.8/50; CZJ 4/135; Pentacon 4/200 | Fujinon: 43-75 | Hanimex: 3.5/23; 4/100;80-200 | Hoya: 25-42;80-205 | Leica: Elmarit-R 2.8/35 | Mamiya: 1.8/55 | Minolta: 1.7/50 | Nikkor: 2.8/24;2/35;2/50;1.2/55;1.8/85;3.5/135 | West German: Ludwig 2.9/50; Meyer 2.8/100; Will 4.5/105; Schneider 3.5/135;Enna 3.5/135; Zeiss 4/135;Isco 4/135; Enna 4.5/240 | Olympus: 3.5/28;1.4/50;3.5/135 | Rikenon: 1.7/50;35-70 | Rollei/Voigtländer: 1.4/55;1.8/50 | Russian: Peleng3.5/8; Zenitar2.8/16; MIR2.8/37; Volna2.8/50; Industar2.8/50; Industar3.5/50; Industar3.5/5cm; Helios2/50; Helios2/58; MIR38 3.5/65; Volna2.8/80; Jupiter2/85; Kaleinar2.8/100;Tair2.8/135; Jupiter3.5/135; Jupiter4/135; Telear3.5/200; Jupiter4/200; Tair4.5/300;RF: Jupiter2.8/35;Industar2.8/53 | Sigma: 28-85;28-105(AF);17-70(AF) | Soligor: 28-105;35-200;70-220 | Tamron: 2.5/24;2.5/135;60-300;70-210 | Tokina: 28-105;80-200;12-24(AF);70-210(AF) | Vivitar: 3.5/17;2/24;2/28;2.5/28;2.8/28 | Yashica: 2/5cm | Other Japanese: Cosina3.8/20; Albinar2.8/28; Porst1.8/35; Beroflex 8/500; Spiratone28-200; Maginon70-210
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Orio
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| LucisPictor wrote: |
Often heard in the States, I've never heard it in England, really. |
What would be the British word for that, "pretty" perhaps?
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