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4GB CF card for 10 GBP
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 1:58 pm    Post subject: 4GB CF card for 10 GBP Reply with quote
I bought this card for 10 GBP and works fine ...
Delivery took around 10 days.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice find and inviting price!
Not very fast transfer rate, but since you don't shoot sports or events, it will not be a problem for you.

I have just bought an Agfa 8Gb compact flash for 90 Euros. Not really cheap, but it has a transfer rate of 20Mb per second, which is important for me because it will record more than 3 frames per second from my 5D - last Sunday with a slower card I had the buffer of my 5D cluttered very soon and had to wait for the bottleneck to be cleared before shooting again.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
For me transfer speed is doesn't matter right.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is incredible how cheap memory cards have become. I remember my first 512MB CF card. OMG, I think I paid about 60 € for it and that time I thought it was a bargain...

I do not really care about very fast speed either. The reason why I have never bought "noname" cards is the reliability, data integrity.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is my second noname card I hope I will don't have problem, I have plenty of time to test , because I don't have important happening in near future.To buy a noname card can be risky, unfortunately to buy a "brand" product also. In last few years all my mobile was crap, even Nokia 9200 and 9300 communicators...


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Attila wrote:
This is my second noname card I hope I will don't have problem,


You will not have more chance of problems than with a name card.
The fact is that the factories that produce these cards are 2-3 in the whole world. And all cards (Sandisk, Verbatim, Agfa, Platinum etc. including the nonames) come from there.
So your noname card will perform exactly like a name card of the same specifications, because much probably it is the same card with a different label on it.

I only had one compact flash card dead since 2003, and it was a Sandisk.
Enough said.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I hope you're right, Orio.
Still, I have read that although the chips are produced in the same factories, the difference which brand uses them is in accepted quality control.
Sure, any card can break down, but I believe that "noname" card have a higher risk, since they accept a wider tolerance on the production line...


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
I hope you're right, Orio.
Still, I have read that although the chips are produced in the same factories, the difference which brand uses them is in accepted quality control.
Sure, any card can break down, but I believe that "noname" card have a higher risk, since they accept a wider tolerance on the production line...


That's about the size of it. I used to work in a ball-bearing factory and all the big names used our balls. Interesting thing about it was that people like Toyo insisted on the finest tolerances while others were happy enough with coarser finishes and paid less for it.
All the balls were made on the exact same machines, just the finer balls got extra time in them.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that these cards are assembled pre-printed components. There should not be any serious human handwork factor in them.

I think for them, it's either they work, or not work. And I think that even noname brands will at least make a on/off checkto see if it works. Actually, chanses are this kind of control is automated, too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually, it won't be a problem for us anyway. We do not live on what is on the cards, right?
So, even if we lost some pics, it would be annyoing but not essential...


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:
I think that these cards are assembled pre-printed components. There should not be any serious human handwork factor in them.

I think for them, it's either they work, or not work. And I think that even noname brands will at least make a on/off checkto see if it works. Actually, chanses are this kind of control is automated, too.

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Variations in failure rates is what will determine the price.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:
Actually, it won't be a problem for us anyway. We do not live on what is on the cards, right?
So, even if we lost some pics, it would be annyoing but not essential...


Actually, when a card stops working, it usually does not lose what is in there (unless you drop it in a glass of milk or something like that).
It just stops recording, but you can download what is already in there. At least, this is what happened when my Sandisc broke.

Really... if I was a pro photographer, then I would perhaps buy only "name" cards. But is it really a logical choice? I doubt about it.
I think it's more like "ok, a card failure screwed today's job, but my conscience is clear because I bought the best there is".
In other words, I think one would buy more for feeling ok with his conscience, than for the belief in a real practical advantage.

Personally, I think it's much wiser, safety-wise, to buy, with the same money, two "noname" cards, than one "name" card of the same specs.

The simple number factor will outperform the chances of failure on individual items IMO.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
That's true! I always recommend to friends to buy rather two 1GB than one 2GB card.


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Just stay right away from the microdisc cards - they are totally unreliable. I have had two and both blew up. A third arrived and faile to work at all - fortunately seller reimbursed me. And they were not nonames.

Personally I let the size of the raw file dictate what I put in - 4gb on my D200 and 1gb on my D70. Seems to work out. And I always carry spares.


patrickh


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
patrickh wrote:
always carry spares.


I guess this is the most important thing in this case.On holiday I always bring with myself a portable hard disk with card reader and every evening I transfer images to hard disk.I believe what Orio says all cards came from a few factory ...


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
LucisPictor wrote:

I do not really care about very fast speed either. The reason why I have never bought "noname" cards is the reliability, data integrity.


Oddly the only card I had data loss on (twice!) was a Lexar ... Confused


PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@ Chris:

I seem to recall reading on another forum a while back about some of the membership having problems with data loss on Lexar cards.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I just received the Agfa card. It can hold 464 RAW files of 5D and 735 RAW files of 400D ! And it's very fast, I shot 3 continuous photos and it recorded them in almost the same time it takes for one.
I'm very happy with this purchase.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:

So your noname card will perform exactly like a name card of the same specifications, because much probably it is the same card with a different label on it.
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I find substantial differences between cards. I did some tests on various SD cards a while ago, I will look for the results. Both burst speed and sustained transfer speed varied a lot.


PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
ChrisLilley wrote:
Orio wrote:

So your noname card will perform exactly like a name card of the same specifications, because much probably it is the same card with a different label on it.
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I find substantial differences between cards. I did some tests on various SD cards a while ago, I will look for the results. Both burst speed and sustained transfer speed varied a lot.


Yes, in fact I wrote "of the same specifications".


PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
In case you buy an ultra-cheap Sandisk CF, here's how to tell if it's fake


PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Orio wrote:

Yes, in fact I wrote "of the same specifications".


Yes you did, and I overlooked that when replying. Apologies.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
In the UK, we can get these:

http://www.mymemory.co.uk/memory/MyMemory/8GB/133X/PRO/Compact/Flash/Card

I had a 2gb one which wasn't as fast as specified but wasn't slow either. Bit of a bargain really.


PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice find!
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