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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:03 am Post subject: 3200 ISO on nex compared with DSLRs |
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yinyangbt wrote:
Hello !
In your experience , how does it stand against the classic DSRL s at 1600 and especially 3200 ? _________________ Cheers , Teo
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Answer greatly depends on which DSLR you compare the NEXes to. If I compare a NEX3 or NEX5 with my Nikon D3 at ISO 3200 the race is as interesting as watching two turtles run against a greyhound.
You can use http://www.dxomark.com to compare high ISO performance of different cameras. For instance here, I put the NEX3 and NEX5 against the D3s and the D3s has about 3-4 f-stops of advantage compared to the NEX.
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sichko
Joined: 20 Jun 2008 Posts: 2475 Location: South West UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:03 am Post subject: |
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sichko wrote:
Do you mean two stops ? Low-light ISO values (as defined by DxOMark) are approximately 800 and 3200 for the NEX 3/5 and the D3s respectively. The ratio. equal to four, corresponds to two stops. _________________ John |
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Esox lucius
Joined: 26 Aug 2008 Posts: 2441 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Esox lucius wrote:
Two or three probably is more close to truth yes, I browsed the comparison too casually.
Difference is significant, and would be best shown with real photos. The higher you crank native ISO (not software simulated) the bigger the differences would be. 3200 is on the upper scale, so expect difference larger than numbers would indicate. |
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std
Joined: 09 Feb 2010 Posts: 1827 Location: Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:41 am Post subject: Re: 3200 ISO on nex compared with DSLRs |
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std wrote:
I guess you will not be using NEX on those iso's. In my experience the result is quite tragic - ISO 800 is my upper limit.
yinyangbt wrote: |
Hello !
In your experience , how does it stand against the classic DSRL s at 1600 and especially 3200 ? |
_________________ Stefan
My lens list:
SLR MD: Rokkor 1,7/50 Exakta: Kilfitt-Makro-Kilar E 3.5/4cm; CZJ 2/50 Pancolar;M42: CZJ 2.8/50 Tessar; Mir-1B 2.8/37; Jupiter-9 2/85 T-mount: Tamron 5.9/200; Tamron 6.9/300; Tamron 7.5/400 C-mount: Cosmicar 1.8/50 Y/S: Sun 3.5/38-90, Sun 4/70-210 RF Contax RF: Jupiter-8 2/50; Contax G:CZ 2,8/21 Biogon T; CZ 2,8/28 Biogon T; CZ 2/35 Planar T; CZ 2/45 Planar T; CZ 2,8/90 Sonnar T |
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yinyangbt
Joined: 08 Oct 2010 Posts: 1973 Location: Romania
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: 3200 ISO on nex compared with DSLRs |
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yinyangbt wrote:
std wrote: |
I guess you will not be using NEX on those iso's. In my experience the result is quite tragic - ISO 800 is my upper limit.
yinyangbt wrote: |
Hello !
In your experience , how does it stand against the classic DSRL s at 1600 and especially 3200 ? |
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S**t !!!!! I really need 1600 and don't mind at all 3200! Still , I have seen some samples from Sony (Yes, right it was a A 55 , OK !)that were blowing me away !
I am considering DSRLs in the APS-c gang , starting with my Canon EOS XTi / 400D (very happy with the 800 , usable 1600) , and going to the new generation of sensor/image processor of the EOS 550D, Nikon 90 ,Pentax K-x , Sony A 55
Another question : that famous twilight handheld shot mode works in Aperture priority with manual focus lenses ? _________________ Cheers , Teo
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
It depends a lot on what you consider to be acceptable quality. It should certainly give equal to or better 1600 and 3200 than the 400d.
Do you shoot raw or jpeg? jpegs tend to look cleaner because they have had noise reduction applied in camera already, raw tells a different story! I would say the nex cameras are as good as current slr's such as 600d _________________ - Dave
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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fatdeeman
Joined: 13 Jun 2009 Posts: 780 Location: UK
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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fatdeeman wrote:
I tend not to trust dxomark too much, it sometimes seems to contradict events in real life such as ranking large sensor digital backs lower than DSLR's for colour depth etc even at low iso settings. _________________ - Dave
www.lensporn.net
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DSLR: Canon EOS 60D, Samsung GX-1S (Pentax *ist DS2)
Mirrorless: Panasonic DMC-G1, Sony NEX-5N
Compact: Canon PowerShot G3
Lenses:
Wide: Tokina RMC 28mm F/2.8, Tamron Adaptall 2 28mm F/2.5, Sun Optical 28mm F/2.5, Super paragon 28mm F/2.8, Sigma filtermatic 24mm F/2.8, Fujinon 35mm F/2.8, Sun Optical 35mm F/2.8
Standard: Industar 50-2, Helios 44-2, Helios 44M, Helios 44M-3, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.4, Pentax-M 50mm F/1.7, Pentax-M 50mm F/2, Ricoh 50mm F/1.7, Chinon 50mm F/1.7
Tele: Pentacon 135mm F/2.8, Pentacon 200mm F/3.5, Optomax 200mm f/3.5, Sun Optical 135mm F/3.5, Soligor 350mm F/5.6
Zoom: Tokina 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 SZ-X270 SD, Sigma Zoom Pi 35-200mm F4-5.6, Sun Optical 28-80mm F/3.5-4.5, Sunagor 80-205mm F/3.8, Tokina RMC 80-200mm F/4, Vivitar 70-150mm F/3.8, Tamron 95-205mm F/6.3, Tamron Adaptall 28-200mm F/3.8-5.6 LD Aspherical, Tokina RMC 70-210mm F/3.5
Mirror: Falcon (Samyang) 800mm F/8, MTO-11CA 1000mm F/10, Tamron Adaptall 2 500mm F/8
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
ISO 3200 on the Nex is equivalent to the latest crop sensor Canons in my experience, which ain't bad! _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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kds315*
Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 16541 Location: Weinheim, Germany
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Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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kds315* wrote:
fatdeeman wrote: |
I tend not to trust dxomark too much, it sometimes seems to contradict events in real life such as ranking large sensor digital backs lower than DSLR's for colour depth etc even at low iso settings. |
Would it be just "too polite" to cite their site/copyright if you do copy from them?? Or just not your style...? _________________ Klaus - Admin
"S'il vient a point, me souviendra" [Thomas Bohier (1460-1523)]
http://www.macrolenses.de for macro and special lens info
http://www.pbase.com/kds315/uv_photos for UV Images and lens/filter info
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kds315/albums my albums using various lenses
http://photographyoftheinvisibleworld.blogspot.com/ my UV BLOG
http://www.travelmeetsfood.com/blog Food + Travel BLOG
https://galeriafotografia.com Architecture + Drone photography
Currently most FAV lens(es):
X80QF f3.2/80mm
Hypergon f11/26mm
ELCAN UV f5.6/52mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f4/60mm
Zeiss UV-Planar f2/62mm
Lomo Уфар-12 f2.5/41mm
Lomo Зуфар-2 f4.0/350mm
Lomo ZIKAR-1A f1.2/100mm
Nikon UV Nikkor f4.5/105mm
Zeiss UV-Sonnar f4.3/105mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f1.8/45mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f4.1/94mm
CERCO UV-VIS-NIR f2.8/100mm
Steinheil Quarzobjektiv f1.8/50mm
Pentax Quartz Takumar f3.5/85mm
Carl Zeiss Jena UV-Objektiv f4/60mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha II f1.1/90mm
NYE OPTICAL Lyman-Alpha I f2.8/200mm
COASTAL OPTICS f4/60mm UV-VIS-IR Apo
COASTAL OPTICS f4.5/105mm UV-Micro-Apo
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f4.5/85mm
Pentax Ultra-Achromatic Takumar f5.6/300mm
Rodenstock UV-Rodagon f5.6/60mm + 105mm + 150mm
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