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cgustav
Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:32 am Post subject: 28mm 2.8__Yashica vs Vivitar vs Olympus |
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cgustav wrote:
While I'm trying to find a solution to another issue regarding my Vivitar, I'm considering alternatives.
Which one would you consider the winner among the three lenses mentioned here?
I'm very happy with the Olympus, although I don't have the 28mm 2.8.
I heard Yashica are good too.
So, in terms of sharpness and CA and curly bokeh, which one would be the best choice?
Thanks for any help. _________________ Fuji X-T10 |
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stevemark
Joined: 29 Apr 2011 Posts: 3754 Location: Switzerland
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:35 am Post subject: Re: 28mm 2.8__Yashica vs Vivitar vs Olympus |
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stevemark wrote:
cgustav wrote: |
While I'm trying to find a solution to another issue regarding my Vivitar, I'm considering alternatives.
Which one would you consider the winner among the three lenses mentioned here?
I'm very happy with the Olympus, although I don't have the 28mm 2.8.
I heard Yashica are good too.
So, in terms of sharpness and CA and curly bokeh, which one would be the best choice?
Thanks for any help. |
There's a seven lens and an eight lens version of the Yashica ML 2.8/28mm. I do own the seven lens version (along with many other 2.8/28mm lenses), and i'm not impressed. I would prefer a Minolta MC/MD 2.8/28mm (seven lens version) for better corner resolution, or maybe a Konica 3.5/28mm (seven lens version) if low distortion is important.
Generally speaking, none of my vintage 2.8/28mm is outstanding, but most are quite good (Canon FD or nFD 2.8/28mm; Carl Zeiss CY Distagon 2.8/28mm; Nikkor AiS 2.8/28mm; Minolta MC and MD 2.8/28mm [7/7]; Tokina RMC 2.8/28mm; Topcor RE 2.8/28mm; Yashica 2.8/28mm [7-Lens version]). I don't own the Olympus 2.8/28mm; the Oly 3.5/28mm, however, is very good.
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:54 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Yes that is an interesting question.
Hard to give a definitive answer until we know which Vivitar and which Yashica.
The serial number of the Vivitar will give us a guide as to who manufactured it.
The Yashica could be the ML or perhaps the Yashinon-DX which are different lenses, and as Stevemark has said there are two versions of the ML.
If you can help us out with specifics it will assist
Cheers
Tom |
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:01 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
To be honest: all these hyped Vivitar 28xxx "close focusing" etc. lenses and variants always have been a disappointment to me. Maybe i was expecting too much because of all the good reports.
I've had several, and several versions as well, none of them impressed me.
The 28's that did impress me: Minolta 2.8/28 (7 lens), Minolta 2.5/28, Konica 3.5/28 (7 lens), Nikkor-N 2.0/28 and the über-cheap RMC Tokina 2.8/28.
I just got a Yashica ML 2.8/28, don't know what version and i haven't tested it yet though.
Cheers, René! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
Yes there are some excellent 28mm lenses out there and there are some poor ones.
There are also plenty of very good ones that will serve very well.
In the comparison that is requested I can't comment until I find out which of the lenses are specifically referred to.
In the meantime, the best 28mm lens that I own is the Pentax K 28mm f3.5, and I have a soft spot for the Meyer Lydith 3.5/30mm for its beautiful rendering.
I have never used the Olympus 28mm f2.8 but the Yashinon DX 2.8/28mm is very good indeed.
The Komine Vivitar 28mm is well regarded. Serial Number 28XXXXXX
More info needed
Tom |
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Excalibur
Joined: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 5019 Location: UK
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: |
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Excalibur wrote:
Well pixel peeping digi owners would find fault in most MF lenses, just get a film camera and for 35mm don't go above say 12 X 10" print (although 20 X16" is possible) and most 28mms are good...although would agree some 28mms are better for distortion. _________________ Canon A1, AV1, T70 & T90, EOS 300 and EOS300v, Chinon CE and CP-7M. Contax 139, Fuji STX-2, Konica Autoreflex TC, FS-1, FT-1, Minolta X-700, X-300, XD-11, SRT101b, Nikon EM, FM, F4, F90X, Olympus OM2, Pentax S3, Spotmatic, Pentax ME super, Praktica TL 5B, & BC1, , Ricoh KR10super, Yashica T5D, Bronica Etrs, Mamiya RB67 pro AND drum roll:- a Sony Nex 3
.........past gear Tele Rolleiflex and Rollei SL66.
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sergun
Joined: 01 Jun 2017 Posts: 283 Location: наша раша
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:53 pm Post subject: Re: 28mm 2.8__Yashica vs Vivitar vs Olympus |
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sergun wrote:
[quote="stevemark"]
cgustav wrote: |
Carl Zeiss CY Distagon 2.8/28mm; Topcor RE 2.8/28mm; |
Interested in these two lenses on FF in the far field. Can something show ? I also have not yet found a very good 28mm. If only Ultron 28mm f2, kind of like shows well. _________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/105161078@N06/
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tb_a
Joined: 26 Jan 2010 Posts: 3678 Location: Austria
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: 28mm 2.8__Yashica vs Vivitar vs Olympus |
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tb_a wrote:
sergun wrote: |
I also have not yet found a very good 28mm. If only Ultron 28mm f2, kind of like shows well. |
My favorite 28mm lens is the CV Ultron 28/1.9. Most probably the newer F2 version is even slightly better. I don't know.
My 28mm lenses in comparison: http://forum.mflenses.com/28mm-lens-comparison-pentax-minolta-topcon-cv-kmz-t76791.html
My Ultron 28/1.9: http://forum.mflenses.com/voigtlander-ultron-28mm-f1-9-aspherical-in-m39-ltm-t72400.html _________________ Thomas Bernardy
Manual focus lenses mainly from Minolta, Pentax, Voigtlaender, Leitz, Topcon and from Russia (too many to be listed here). |
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kryss
Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 2169 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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kryss wrote:
Pentax K and Vivitar Komine have always been good enough for me. _________________ Do not trust Atoms....they make up everything. |
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cgustav
Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: |
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cgustav wrote:
Ouch, I thought this thread was dead and I pulled the trigger, I bought the Yashica.
Here are the serial numbers:
Vivitar 28 f/2.8 NO. 28226738
Olympus 28 f/3.5 NO. 365173
As for the Yashica that I bought (I didn't receive it yet), I can't see any serial in the pictures. _________________ Fuji X-T10 |
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uddhava
Joined: 22 Aug 2012 Posts: 3071 Location: Hungary
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:21 am Post subject: |
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uddhava wrote:
Good luck.
Hope it gives you the results you want!
I have heard they are nice lenses. |
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:35 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
cgustav wrote: |
Ouch, I thought this thread was dead and I pulled the trigger, I bought the Yashica.
Here are the serial numbers:
Vivitar 28 f/2.8 NO. 28226738
Olympus 28 f/3.5 NO. 365173
As for the Yashica that I bought (I didn't receive it yet), I can't see any serial in the pictures. |
The Yashica ML has a bayonet fitting - Contax/Yashica type.
The Yashica-DX is an M42 screw mount fitting.
I think that either will give good results.
Have fun with your lens
Tom
PS - here are some samples taken with the Yashica ML.
@f2.8, f5.6 and f8
As you can see, it will take good images for you.
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TrueLoveOne
Joined: 30 Sep 2012 Posts: 1840 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:55 am Post subject: |
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TrueLoveOne wrote:
Oldhand wrote: |
PS - here are some samples taken with the Yashica ML.
@f2.8, f5.6 and f8
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Thanks for the samples, looking good! I got the ML some time ago in a lot i bought, never used it. Now i have a reason to go out and try it! _________________ My Flickr photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/chantalrene/
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Oldhand
Joined: 01 Apr 2013 Posts: 6008 Location: Mid North Coast NSW - Australia
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
TrueLoveOne wrote: |
Oldhand wrote: |
PS - here are some samples taken with the Yashica ML.
@f2.8, f5.6 and f8
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Thanks for the samples, looking good! I got the ML some time ago in a lot i bought, never used it. Now i have a reason to go out and try it! |
I have no idea which version of the Yashica ML that I had, but here are some shots with it - including crops, that show it to be very capable.
I no longer have this lens but it was a good one.
Tom
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cgustav
Joined: 01 Jun 2014 Posts: 270 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:09 am Post subject: |
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cgustav wrote:
Thanks for taking the time to post the samples, Thomas!
The model I've bought is the ML:
uddhava wrote: |
Good luck.
Hope it gives you the results you want!
I have heard they are nice lenses. |
Thank you, uddhava.
Hopefully, it will.
stevemark wrote: |
There's a seven lens and an eight lens version of the Yashica ML 2.8/28mm.
Stephan |
Thanks for the info, stevemark.
What should I look for in order to figure if it's seven or eight lens? _________________ Fuji X-T10 |
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Oldhand
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Oldhand wrote:
cgustav wrote: |
Thanks for taking the time to post the samples, Thomas!
The model I've bought is the ML:
uddhava wrote: |
Good luck.
Hope it gives you the results you want!
I have heard they are nice lenses. |
Thank you, uddhava.
Hopefully, it will.
stevemark wrote: |
There's a seven lens and an eight lens version of the Yashica ML 2.8/28mm.
Stephan |
Thanks for the info, stevemark.
What should I look for in order to figure if it's seven or eight lens? |
No doubt Stevemark will reply, but in the meantime have a look at this link:
https://www.flickr.com/groups/71139756@N00/discuss/72157630569321340/
It might help a little
Tom |
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2017 11:06 am Post subject: |
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