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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject: 200mm f/4.5 KASHIMURA DIANON |
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woodrim wrote:
Recently purchased this lens as a curiosity. Anyone know anything about it? From what I've read, Kashimura had a close association with Tomoika at one point - and others.
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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mo
Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Posts: 8982 Location: Australia
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:50 am Post subject: |
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mo wrote:
It's a odd looking lens all top heavy nothing down the rear end...how balanced does it feel? _________________ Moira, Moderator
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
Odd for sure. It will be a while before I have it. I do like the number of blades. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Interesting find indeed.
I have a mystery 300mm that may be related. I'll post it sometime and we'll see. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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a20010494
Joined: 15 Feb 2010 Posts: 396 Location: Perú.
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:33 am Post subject: |
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a20010494 wrote:
Dude, those are sexy, sexy blades.
I dont know why newer glass has 6-9 blades only. _________________ www.estudiocaleidoscopio.com |
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Scheimpflug
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 1888 Location: New Zealand / USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Scheimpflug wrote:
mo wrote: |
It's a odd looking lens all top heavy nothing down the rear end...how balanced does it feel? |
It should be great, actually! I wish all tele lenses could be designed like that!
Moving the controls out to the end will make the camera/lens assembly much more stable when you are taking handheld shots. _________________ Sigma DP1, Nikon D40 (hers ), Polaroid x530, Pentax P30t, Pentax P50, (P30t/P50 K-A to Nikon F body mount conversion)
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
a20010494 wrote: |
Dude, those are sexy, sexy blades.
I dont know why newer glass has 6-9 blades only. |
I think it's because auto diaphragm lenses need diaphragms to open and close extremely quickly, which makes more than 6-8 difficult and expensive to do. The older lenses have manual or preset ones...are there any auto diaphragm lenses with more than 8 blades? _________________ Eugene
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Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
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Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
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PBFACTS
Joined: 24 Dec 2008 Posts: 564
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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:59 am Post subject: |
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PBFACTS wrote:
eggboy wrote: |
are there any auto diaphragm lenses with more than 8 blades? |
High end lenses have usually 9 blades _________________ OM USER .. I KEEP/USE:
Om2 sp + T32 (grip/filter/zoom) + T8
+ Zuiko 16mm 3.5 / 55mm 1.2 / 65-200 4/ x1.4
+ Sigma 8mm 4.0 / 14mm 3.5 / 18-35 3.5-4.5
+ Tamron 35/105 2.8
+Tokina 150/500 5.6
+ Kiron 105/2.8 macro 1:1
+ Vivitar S1 90/180 falst field macro
+ 2x Doubler HR7
>>I SELL: OM10 + OM4ti
+ i sell: OM Md1 + Md 2 + Grip PowerPack + charger
+ i sell: OM Zuiko 24mm 2.8 / 28mm 3.5 / 50mm 1.8 / 50mm 1.4 / 50mm 3.5 macro / 35-70 3.6 / 35-105 3.5-4.5 / 75-150 4 / 500mm / 2xA
+ i sell: OM Kiron 28/105 3.2-4.5 / 1.5 converter
+ i sell: OM Makinon reflex 5.6/300 + Spector reflex (makinon) 500mm
+ i sell: OM Macro panagor extender 1:1
+ i sell: OM Sigma 16mm 2.8 fisheye (last version) / 21-35 3.5-4.2 ot/ 28-70 2.8 /1000mm mirror
+ i sell: Tamron 28-70 3.5-4.5 / 28-80 sp 3.5-4.2 / 28-135 sp 4-4.5 / /28-200 3.5 / 35-135 3..5-4.5 / 90mm sp macro 1:1 2.8
+ i sell: OM Soligor 2x doubler / x3 converte
+ i sell: Soligor FisheEye x0.15
+ i sell: OM Tokina 28/135 4-4.6 / 70/210 3.5 (= vivitar S1 v2)
+ i sell: OM Vivitar 28-70 3.5-4.8 / 28-90 s1 2.8-3.5 / 35-70 2.8-3.8 / 55/2.8 Macro 1:1 (komine) / 70-150 3.8 ot (kiron) / 75-150 ot 3.8 (tokina + 2x matched)
+ i sell : OM cosina 100-500 5.6/8 |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
I see that I never came back and posted images from this lens. When I first received it, I just took some simple pictures and put it away. Tuesday was 200mm day at the Dyxum site - one of the theme challenges - so I got this one and two other lenses out for my challenge shoot. No great images here, but at least I was able to evaluate the lens a little better. Here are my findings... It has a very long MFD, very long. While it is not absent of CA, I was surprised to see it fairly well controlled, especially on the white flower picture against the dark background. I made no CA correction to that and can only see a slight bit of magenta fringing mainly in one spot upon pixel peeping. Some of my lenses would have outlined that flower in blue. Sharpness is acceptable, but not remarkable. Whites are not blown out like on many other lenses - and this I appreciate. Given the quality and speed of a couple of others of my 200mm lenses, this one will only get occasional use or maybe sold.
50% crop
_________________ Regards,
Woodrim
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Himself
Joined: 01 Mar 2007 Posts: 3215 Location: Montreal
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Himself wrote:
Is that chiken for real or it's there just to scare away any other flying thing? _________________ Moderator Himself |
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eggboy
Joined: 20 May 2008 Posts: 190 Location: Western Massachusetts, USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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eggboy wrote:
that ain't no chicken... _________________ Eugene
Current Fave Lenses:
Nikkor S.C 5cm/1.4 Rangefinder with Amadeo S>M Mount
Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar 5cm/2 Contax RF c. 1937,
Nikkor-N 28/2 Nikon F mount
Digital Cameras:
Nikon Z 6II, Panasonic GX8
Film Cameras:
Ansco B2 6x9 Box Camera
Bronica S2
Nikon F2
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
That's called a turkey buzzard and they circle in the sky here always looking for death to feed their perverted appetite. There has been an awful smell coming from the wooded area between my house and the neighbor's and that is where several had gathered for feasting on some unidentified animal. I frightened them when I came out and this ugly chap flew to the neighbor's roof. There's nothing more disappointing than when I think I'm photographing a hawk, but then discover one of these horrid creatures when I process the image. _________________ Regards,
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ManualFocus-G
Joined: 29 Dec 2008 Posts: 6624 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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ManualFocus-G wrote:
Love the bird I've seen this lens branded as Hanimex and Prinz Galaxy amongst others. _________________ Graham - Moderator
Shooter of choice: Fujifilm X-T20 with M42, PB and C/Y lenses
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sibsolo
Joined: 21 Nov 2013 Posts: 8
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:34 am Post subject: |
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sibsolo wrote:
Great lens!
I love this bokeh, I love the tenderness in picture, that make this lens
Color, sharpness - all the good!
Here some my photos with Kashimura Dianon 200mm f/4.5 |
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kansalliskala
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 5028 Location: Southern Finland countryside
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:17 am Post subject: |
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kansalliskala wrote:
PBFACTS wrote: |
eggboy wrote: |
are there any auto diaphragm lenses with more than 8 blades? |
High end lenses have usually 9 blades |
new lenses are considered high end if they have more than 4 _________________ MF: Kodak DCS SLR/c; Samsung NX10; OM-10; Canon T50
Zuiko 28/3.5, Distagon 35/2.8; Yashica ML 50/2;
Zuiko 50/1.4; S-M-C 120/2.8; Zuiko 135/3.5; 200/5;
Tamron AD1 135/2.8, Soligor 180/3.5; Tamron AD1 300/5.6
Tamron zooms: 01A, Z-210
Yashicaflex C; Київ 4 + Юпитер 8, 11; Polaroid 100; Olympus XA; Yashica T3
Museum stuff: Certo-Phot; Tele-Edixon 135; Polaris 90-190; Asahi Bellows; Ixus IIs
Projects: Agfa Isolette III (no shutter), Canon AE-1D (no sensor),
Nikon D80 (dead), The "Peace Camera"
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BeardsAreBest
Joined: 09 May 2014 Posts: 286 Location: Australia
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:35 am Post subject: |
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BeardsAreBest wrote:
Wow! beautiful pics. |
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woodrim
Joined: 14 Jan 2010 Posts: 4060 Location: Charleston
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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woodrim wrote:
You'll notice that I started this thread nearly four years ago. The lens has pretty much sat on my shelf since then, mostly because it's so slow. Every now and then I go back to my folder for it and look at the pictures. They always strike me as sharp and with good color. Most notably, the white in the flower shot maintained detail. I should take it out again, especially now that I have acquired a few more 200mm from which to compare. The Vivitar Series 1 has remained my favorite, followed by the Komura f/3.5, then in no order are Rokkor f/4, Topcor f/5.6, and Jupiter f/4. Seems I have a project for the weekend. _________________ Regards,
Woodrim |
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luisalegria
Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 6627 Location: San Francisco, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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luisalegria wrote:
Origin seems to be Itoh - seen as Itoh Higon as that seems to have been the house brand.
Itoh is still around, a lens maker - optical components anyway.
I have the 300 and 400 of this line and the 135 isn't too rare.
The 300 is ... interesting. The 400, the jury is still out.
Your 200 seems much more conventionally capable. _________________ I like Pentax DSLR's, Exaktas, M42 bodies of all kinds, strange and cheap Japanese lenses, and am dabbling in medium format/Speed Graphic work. |
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