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200/f4 comparison - Nikkor AIS and Pentax SMC
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Attila



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Leslie wrote:
I have the M42 Super Takumar f4 200mm. Is the SMC any better?
I find the Super Tak good but no better than the Tamron Adaptall 2 f3.5 200mm or even the Tamron f3.5 19AH SP 70-210. So I don't use it these days.
I must agree about the scanning point.
One often has to judge by the weakest link in the chain.


Generally I didn't see any difference between Super and SMC Takumars , I had both 200mm . 135mm and above Tamrons too. No significant difference between them.
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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Rob Leslie



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that info Attila.
I did do a couple of test with the Tamron Adaptall 2 f3.5 200mm and the Pentax lens and found nothing in it when stopped down to f5.6 but I thought the Tamron slightly better at f4 when the Takumar was wide open and the Tamron's f3.5 as good as the Takumars f4.
I came to the same conclusion with the SP 70-200 f3.5 model 19AH which is fantastic considering it is a zoom.
I also find both Tams to be nicer handling lenses but that is a personal preference.
I would use the Tam f3.5 200mm a lot more but always tend to go with SP 70-210 or the SP 35-210, the extra weight and size is nothing considering the extra versatility they offer.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found all Tamron lenses were good or very good or superb on my Nikon D50. I have less luck with them on Olympus E-1 none of them reach superb flag on this cam. So I sell my large Tamron collection, but I guess I will keep the best ones. I have no experience with Tamron super zoom 35-210mm how perform at 35mm ?
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Olympus E-1,Nikon FA,Pentax MX,Praktica VLC3,Olympus-OM2N,Yashica Eletro 35 GN,Exakta Varex IIb,BESA L,Yashica MAT 124G
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Carl Zeiss Jena:Flektogon 2.8/20mm,4/25mm,2.4/35,2.8/65mm,4.5/4cm Tessar, 8/500mm Fernobjektiv
Pancolar 1.4/55mm,1.8/50mm,1.8/80mm,Tessar 2.8/50mm,Biotar 2/58mm,1.5/75mm,1.5/7,5cm
Carl Zeiss: Sonnar 2.8/135,2.8/180mm,Tessar 4/135mm
Nikon: 3.5/20mm,2.8/28mm,1.4/35mm,1.4/50mm,1.2/50mm,2/50mm,1.8/105mm,2.5/105mm,4/200mm macro,4.5/300mm
Pentax: Pentax 1.2/50mm,1.8/85mm,4/200mm
Helios: Helios-40 1.5/8,5cm,Helios-44-1 2/58mm,Helios-44-2 2/58mm
Olympus OM: 3.5/18mm,3.5/21mm,1.4/50mm,3.5/55mm macro,2.8/135mm,2/90mm macro,35-70mm,60-250mm
Meyer: 4.5/35mm Primagon,Primoplan 1.9/58mm,1.9/75mm,2.8/100mm,Orestegor 2.8/135mm,4.5/40 Helioplan
Leica: 4/100 Macro Elmar,2.8/90 Elmarit last version

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

zewrak wrote:
Attila wrote:
I guess I started as collector as you , now I changed I try to get better and better lenses.


Well I will stick with the Super Takumars, because I think they look aaa. Wink I'll go Zeiss when I get a mediumformat thing going.

Anyways, great shots of the squirrel. I'm sure you will be happy with a digital body Smile


zewrak, as you know it's the same with everything in life, for the last little bit you have to pay the most Wink
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